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Subject: Re: Female spectators at nude swim meets

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Date Posted: 17:06:30 03/09/18 Fri
In reply to: TIM 's message, "Re: Female spectators at nude swim meets" on 17:44:38 01/05/18 Fri

Tim, take a chill pill. Who really cares if it is real or not? The stories are good and some of the writing is good (some of you really need to learn how to write and either figure out different ways to say the same thing or add some more descriptive words about how YOU felt). So, if you don't like it, don't read it!!

Nude male swimming in high school and YMCA in the 50's until about the mid 1970's is an indisputable fact -- at least in the midwest. I have friends who talked about how they were forced to participated in nude swimming during this time and some of the scrawny white boys were a bit intimidated by the size of some of the black kids equipment.

The only questions are whether or not these boys ever competed in swim meets without swimsuits or whether women and girls were allowed to view the nude boys in practice or meets. My friend wasn't on a swim team, so I am not sure if he would know the answer to that and it is probably best not to ask.

I know from first hand experience, where there is teenage nudity, there will be curious teenagers (boys and girls) trying to get a peek at the opposite sex. So I am sure that some of the girls in the schools with the naked boys swimming found a way to peek at the boys and see their genitals through cracks in the doors or partially open windows or by gaining entry to the pool balcony.

It is not exactly the same thing, but we were able to do something similar in Junior High. The boy's and girl's locker rooms were separated only by a foldable metal door that lifted up for the custodian to clean both locker rooms at the same time. The locked door didn't quit make it down all of the way to the ground, so some industrious students came up with creative ways to peek in and see what was on the other side of the door. Since this door was right outside the showers, you could see quite a bit as the girls filed in and out of the showers. I don't know for sure, but I imagine if the boys figured out how to do that, so did the girls!! Not that I was looking, but I don't remember any of the boys being particularly well endowed at this age (12 -14), but some of the girls most definitely were!!

In high school we didn't have nude swimming for boys (I grew up years after this practice ended), but we did have co-ed PE classes. The girl's PE shorts were rather loose fitting around the legs so a girl who was doing weight training who positioned her legs spread apart would reveal most of whatever the PE shorts were supposed to be covering up. In other words, the very least you could see was the girl's panties. Most boys were probably too busy trying to be macho and showing off how much they could bench press (not much) to notice this. But as a varsity athlete (we lifted weights before school), I was called upon by the PE teacher to go from station to station helping the rest of the class with their workouts. It turns out that many of the girls in the class were not particularly careful about how their legs were positioned. I can very firmly attest to the fact that this was before girls became accustomed to removing all of their pubic hair!! I imagine the girls probably had the same view of the boys (sorry girls, I never bothered to look), but many of the boys wore either tightie-whities or jock straps keeping concealed pretty much everything a teenage boy cares about.

The sheer speedo swimsuits we were required to wear for co-ed swimming were an entirely different story!! The tight fitting suits left little to the imagination downstairs on the boys. If someone happened to get a little excited, there was no way the rest of the class wasn't going to know about it unless we were in the water. But anything on the pool deck was visible by all. In this instance, the boys had it worse than the girls, but the girls were still not safe. The girls were required to wear a form fitting one-piece suit. A very well endowed girl (and I remember quite a few) who got a little chilled or exited revealed quite a lot to the very eager boys. I remember one very busty brunette in my swim class that I had the biggest crush on. It took me weeks to get up enough courage to ask her out. Unfortunately I am still waiting (MANY YEARS LATER) for her reply!! Anyway, she stretched out the top of the suit a bit and with bright pool lights hitting her at a certain angle you could tell that she had very large and prominent areola. I had to be careful not to stare too much, otherwise I would be sticking straight out too!!

The high school facility was fairly new and modern at the time, while it is possible that the girls died spy on the boys changing, the cracks and doors swinging wide open that others wrote about really didn’t apply here. The best possibility for spying on the boys was from one of the athletic offices or the weight room adjacent to the wrestling room. An industrious girl might have known (or was told) that the boys on the wrestling team had mandatory weigh-ins every day after practice. Most wresters need to know their EXACT weight to make sure they qualify for their weight class, so unless you were wresting heavy weight, all of the boys stripped down to their birthday suits for weigh-ins. If a girl was just outside of the wresting room (or hiding in the weight room) they could very easily have spied on about 30 something very fit (and starving) teenage boys completely in the buff.

Ladies, I cannot tell you too much about the boys, but I can tell you there were at least a few Freshman wrestlers in the lower weight classes that were still hairless down below. I remember that ONLY because it was unique.

Many of the girls did get to see some naked boys and they didn’t even have to go out of their way. This was in the era immediately after streaking went out of vogue, but that didn’t stop some people from doing it. I remember my Freshman year sitting in the courtyard talking to friends on a very nice spring afternoon when about 20 seniors on the varsity football team went streaking through the courtyard. I distinctly remember the look of shock and amusement on this blonde haired Italian girl’s face as she saw the very naked boys run past us around the courtyard wearing only their football helmet and cleats!! She spotted one of the naked boys running past us and recognized him by the bushy light brownish hair sticking out of his helmet and his matching pubic hair and shouted out his name (she was right). He appeared a bit embarrassed to be recognized, but he graduated a few day later so I am sure he got over it.

I played football in college too. We had one day in November where it was too cold, rainy and windy to practice outdoors so we all gathered inside the stadium waiting for the indoor practice gym to be opened. While we were there waiting (it took at least 15 minutes for someone to come down and unlock the doors) I and handful of my teammates peered in on the women’s gymnastics team. One of the petite blond gymnasts (Eileen) saw us watching their practice (we were were a captive audience with nothing else do until the practice room door was unlocked) and started to do a hand stand — turned to face us and completely spread her legs!! This wasn’t a naked story, it was just very erotic at 17 years old to see this. Depending on who you spoke to, there was a rumor was that Eileen was either sleeping with several of the football players or she was sleeping with several of the soccer players — possibly both!! All I know is that it wasn’t with me.

Anyway, I cannot say too much because I don’t want to embarrass real people who possibly might be recognized here based on descriptions, but one of the guys on the football team was rather well endowed. Again, not that I was looking, but in this case it was impossible NOT to notice. I never asked how big and I didn’t do more than a very quick glance to make sure it wasn’t a prosthetic, but from what I remember it was almost the length of my forearm so we are talking at least 10 inches FLACCID—and I am not exaggerating. I certainly had no desire to ever see that thing erect so I cannot give you anything more on the size. Supposedly this player was Eileen the gymnast’s favorite… along with quite a few other girls.

I discovered early my Freshman year in college that many of the girls in my dorm had binoculars sitting on their desks. Because of the shape and location of the building (it was shaped like an X) you could see into the dorm rooms of at least one other wing of the building and the lower floors of the dorm rooms in the tower across the parking lot. These girls with the binoculars happened to live in the wing right across the courtyard from the dorm rooms of most of the football players. Not sure if that was the motivating factor or not. I lived in a different wing. From my dorm room I was able to view the girls in the wing on the other side of courtyard and two wings of the dorm just to the east of us. Seeing the girls on this other floor with the binoculars inspired me. So next time I went home, I brought my telescope back with me!! Needless to say, I saw quite a few young college girls changing in their dorm room, a few having sex either with their boyfriend or with each other and at least one girl starring back at me with her binoculars!! And before anyone gets the wrong (or right) idea, the voyeurism was short lived and usually done with my friend Becky who lived two floors below me. Apparently she didn't have binoculars!! Oh, and after I figured out what the girls were doing, even though I was on an upper floor, I stopped changing in the room with the curtains open!!

My voyeurism pretty much ended after college… but I do have one other incident when I was living on the middle floor of a 3 flat apartment complex. Each floor contained a separate 2 bedroom unit. Two cute college girls rented the apartment underneath us. I wasn’t too interested because my girlfriend was living with me and she was at least as cute if not cuter — with much bigger breasts. I was sitting in my home office late one evening working on the computer (OK, I was probably downloading porn from a bulletin board service) and I heard a noise. I looked around, listened. Couldn’t hear anything, so I went back to what I was doing. Again, I hear the noise and it was a little louder this time. Looked around, nothing. Then I heard it again. This time I got up and went around the apartment. I poked my head into the bathroom and my girlfriend was in the bath tub and it wasn’t her. Then we both heard it again and this time it was louder and more rapid. We figured it was one of the girls downstair moaning/screaming coming up through the floor. She got louder and louder and more rapid. Whoever was doing her, or whatever she was doing to herself sounded pretty intense. My girlfriend continued soaking naked in the tub with her big tits and her silver dollar sized dark areola poking out through the bubble bath. She was enjoying this too. If I wasn’t horny before from downloading BBS porn, then I surely was by now. As the saying goes, if you can’t join them, then just beat it. So that is exactly what I did. I pulled my cock out of my shorts and started jerking off. I jerked off with my girlfriend many times, but I think this was the first time I jerked off FOR her. She just layed back in the tub watching me and caressing her tits while I jerked myself off to the sounds of our downstairs neighbor getting fucked or fucking herself (not sure which). My girl asked me how far I could shoot. She wanted to see if I could hit her tits from across the bathroom. Not one to avoid a challenge, I quickly got to work and tried to time my strokes to each loud moan/scream coming up from below. By the time our female neighbor was at the peak of her orgasmic crescendo, so was I. The neighbor gave out one last giant moan/scream and I exploded, shooting a few arcs of cum cross the bathroom. I don’t recall if I hit my girlfriend’s tits, but I did manage to shoot about 5 feet into the tub!! My girlfriend was has a bit snarky said she never doubted my masturbatory skills!! Over the next few weeks, we heard the moaning/screaming several more times. What was curious was that it happened late at night were it was more than likely BOTH girls were home. I NEVER saw a guy come or go from their apartment. And it was impossible for someone in that apartment not to hear the person making all of that noise in the next bedroom. This leads me to deduce either one of the girls was fucking the other REALLY HARD or one of them was fucking herself with a dildo while the other girl either watched or was in her bedroom hearing everything loud and clear. Since this happened often, I am going to go out on a limb and guess one was fucking the other… although I only remember hearing one girl moan/scream.

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