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Date Posted: 05/10/15 4:12:55pm Sun
Author: Bogie
Subject: Colgate at North Carolina

The very best of luck this afternoon, kids. Actually you don't need luck. You just have to play your game. Keep your eyes circling on defense, and I think you guys win this one.

I'll be watching.

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[> Colgate at North Carolina -- Bogie, 05/10/15 4:30:18pm Sun

I assume everyone knows that the game is on ESPNU at 5:15 PM.


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[> [> Re: Colgate at North Carolina -- laxman, 05/10/15 4:54:03pm Sun

>I assume everyone knows that the game is on ESPNU at
>5:15 PM.

I'm tuned in now, watching Denver-Brown. Hoping the Hoo-Doo is with the Gate this afternoon. UNC is tough but we just need to hang around long enough to make a run in the 4th Q.
Go 'Gate!!!


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[> [> [> Re: Colgate at North Carolina -- B.C. Milligan, 05/10/15 5:45:54pm Sun

Unless we make a run in the first quarter! I am only watching the stats, but I can sense the fire, seeing Colgate go from 3-1 down to a 4-3 lead by the end of the quarter. Go 'Gate!


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[> [> [> [> Re: Colgate at North Carolina -- laxman, 05/10/15 6:25:32pm Sun

>Unless we make a run in the first quarter! I am only
>watching the stats, but I can sense the fire, seeing
>Colgate go from 3-1 down to a 4-3 lead by the end of
>the quarter. Go 'Gate!

Not looking good at the half - NC doubling the score.


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[> [> [> [> [> Re: Colgate at North Carolina -- Bogie, 05/10/15 7:13:56pm Sun

Still time - only down by three in the 4th.


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[> Re: Colgate at North Carolina -- Bogie, 05/10/15 7:47:24pm Sun

Great effort, and fantastic comeback in the 3rd. I really thought 'gate would pull this one off . . . wait 'til next year!

Congrats to all 'gate fans on a fine season.


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[> [> Re: Colgate at North Carolina -- Maven, 05/10/15 11:56:30pm Sun

>Great effort, and fantastic comeback in the 3rd. I
>really thought 'gate would pull this one off . . .
>wait 'til next year!
>
>Congrats to all 'gate fans on a fine season.

It was a fun year. Thanks to all, and special kudos to the seniors.


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[> Re: Colgate at North Carolina -- Gate Raider, 05/10/15 8:08:14pm Sun

Very good season, PL champion, congrats to the team.


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[> [> Re: Colgate at North Carolina -- laxman, 05/10/15 8:15:15pm Sun

>Very good season, PL champion, congrats to the team.

Good showing against a very strong and quick NC team. Another great season in the books for the Raiders with "almost" wins against 'Cuse and UNC, and making the NCAAs again. Can't complain. No reason to hang our heads.


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[> [> Re: Colgate at North Carolina -- gate, 05/10/15 8:41:29pm Sun

Way to fight, 'Gate. Great season for Colgate.
Thank you, Seniors. Good luck in the MLL.


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[> [> [> Re: Colgate at North Carolina -- The Future, 05/11/15 12:29:20pm Mon

Great to see how these guys came back in the 3rd and 4th. Felt like they were going to make it close. A shame Walsh was so banged up for the end but he gave four great years. Congrats to all of the seniors on a great run.

Having 5,310 people (was that a record?) at a lacrosse game at The Kerr Dome says a lot about where the sport can go--especially with Syracuse, Cornell, and Albany being such good programs and being so close.


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[> [> [> [> Maryland - Denver -- laxman, 05/24/15 11:54:38am Sun

>Great to see how these guys came back in the 3rd and
>4th. Felt like they were going to make it close. A
>shame Walsh was so banged up for the end but he gave
>four great years. Congrats to all of the seniors on a
>great run.
>
>Having 5,310 people (was that a record?) at a lacrosse
>game at The Kerr Dome says a lot about where the sport
>can go--especially with Syracuse, Cornell, and Albany
>being such good programs and being so close.

IT's Maryland - Denver for the championship. One can dream that we might be in the Final Four down the road.


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[> [> [> [> [> Re: Maryland - Denver -- Jesus Shuttleworth, 05/24/15 1:00:26pm Sun

>>Great to see how these guys came back in the 3rd and
>>4th. Felt like they were going to make it close. A
>>shame Walsh was so banged up for the end but he gave
>>four great years. Congrats to all of the seniors on a
>>great run.
>>
>>Having 5,310 people (was that a record?) at a lacrosse
>>game at The Kerr Dome says a lot about where the sport
>>can go--especially with Syracuse, Cornell, and Albany
>>being such good programs and being so close.
>
>IT's Maryland - Denver for the championship. One can
>dream that we might be in the Final Four down the road.

Better get fully funded (which won't happen) or it's just a pipe.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Maryland - Denver -- William James, 05/24/15 6:36:05pm Sun

>Better get fully funded (which won't happen) or it's
>just a pipe.

Need a sugar daddy (or momma).

Seems like if one offered to fully endow the Men's program (with equal money going to women's sports), Colgate would have to take it. Without it being *fully* endowed (see below), a risk would be run that the overall funding would stay the same and the institution would just take current spending on Men's Lax and put it elsewhere.

Note: After full scholarships, the coaches will argue they need more recruiting money, more travel money, higher salaries, etc. So, back of the envelope:

$181,000 operating

12.6 scholarships * $65k = $819,000

Full compliment of coaches, properly paid: $500,000
(may be a different staff....)

$1,500,000 for Men's lax (a year). x 2 for Title IX: $3M a year.

Most schools use a x20 multiplier for endowment calculation (that is, they draw 5% off): 20 x $3M = $60 Million Dollar Gift.

Would Murray and Vicky even take this gift if offered, or would it be a political nightmare?

I really believe Colgate could have a final four team within five years if properly funded and supported.....


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Maryland - Denver -- gate, 05/25/15 10:05:08am Mon

Connor Cannizzaro, from Cazenovia, chose Maryland and then transferred to Denver. Why wouldn't he or others from the area want to play locally? There is an attraction toward storied programs with rich, winning traditions in competitive leagues. Not sure the Patriot League will ever measure up to the ACC, the Big East, the Big Ten or even the Ivy League, but scholarships will only help.

IMO success in many phases of athletics correlates to size. Many of these schools have made the NCAA tournament on a regular basis. Some enrollment statistics (undergraduate):

Maryland - 27,000
Duke - 6600
Syracuse - 14,500
Notre Dame - 8500
Denver - 5500
Johns Hopkins - 6250
Loyola - 4004
UNC - 29,000
UVA - 16087
UMass - 22,134
Ohio State - 44,270
Yale - 5430
Brown - 6455
Cornell - 14393
COLGATE - 2860


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Maryland - Denver -- laxman, 05/25/15 10:21:23am Mon

>Connor Cannizzaro, from Cazenovia, chose Maryland and
>then transferred to Denver. Why wouldn't he or others
>from the area want to play locally? There is an
>attraction toward storied programs with rich, winning
>traditions.....

Why didn't he choose 'Cuse. There's a storied program. Could he have chosen 'Gate over 'Cuse? Was he recruited heavily by either school? Either way, it's a big loss for local LAX.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Maryland - Denver -- Gate Raider, 05/25/15 4:57:55pm Mon

I see no reason why Colgate should not be able to compete with the ivy league and we do in football.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Maryland - Denver -- Gater, 05/25/15 7:23:47pm Mon

>I see no reason why Colgate should not be able to
>compete with the ivy league and we do in football.

Big difference between competing with the Ivy League and competing nationally. Cornell is falling back with the coaching change and Yale is the only other program worth mentioning currently.

Please don't compare this sport to football, who cares if we compete with them in football? Even if they were eligible for NCAA's no schools would compete anyways., but I have learned quickly that football is the end all be all, regardless if it is successful.


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[> 2015 Power Rankings, LaxPower -- gate, 05/26/15 6:34:57pm Tue

From LaxPower...the PL is holding steady in the middle of the pack but may not play leapfrog anytime soon.

Men's Division I
Rank Conference PR W L Pct.
1 ACC 98.15 47 8 0.855
2 Big Ten 94.40 34 26 0.567
3 Ivy 93.91 36 20 0.643
4 Big East 93.61 33 24 0.579
5 Patriot 92.81 27 25 0.519
6 Colonial 92.55 25 31 0.446
7 America East 90.55 28 32 0.467
8 Northeast 90.02 20 36 0.357
9 SoCon 88.89 15 35 0.300
10 Metro Atlantic 88.49 20 37 0.351
11 Independent 86.43 8 19 0.296

Computer Ranking Change 2014 to 2015 (Colgate ranks 7th in terms of improvement of 66+ teams)

http://www.laxpower.com/common/PR_change_generate.php?gender=M&div=1&yrid=d3a82f808cf9f97a8336c62d22c884c75ad30ef6


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[> [> Re: 2015 Power Rankings, LaxPower -- The Future, 05/26/15 6:42:35pm Tue

Denver drops in the rankings. Tough computer.


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[> [> Re: 2015 Power Rankings, LaxPower -- Maven, 05/26/15 6:47:40pm Tue

>From LaxPower...the PL is holding steady in the middle
>of the pack but may not play leapfrog anytime soon.
>
>Men's Division I
>Rank Conference PR W L Pct.
>1 ACC 98.15 47 8 0.855
>2 Big Ten 94.40 34 26 0.567
>3 Ivy 93.91 36 20 0.643
>4 Big East 93.61 33 24 0.579
>5 Patriot 92.81 27 25 0.519
>6 Colonial 92.55 25 31 0.446
>7 America East 90.55 28 32 0.467
>8 Northeast 90.02 20 36 0.357
>9 SoCon 88.89 15 35 0.300
>10 Metro Atlantic 88.49 20 37 0.351
>11 Independent 86.43 8 19 0.296
>
>Computer Ranking Change 2014 to 2015 (Colgate ranks
>7th in terms of improvement of 66+ teams)
>
> >href="http://www.laxpower.com/common/PR_change_generate
>.php?gender=M&div=1&yrid=d3a82f808cf9f97a8336c62d22c884
>c75ad30ef6">http://www.laxpower.com/common/PR_change_ge
>nerate.php?gender=M&div=1&yrid=d3a82f808cf9f97a8336c62d
>22c884c75ad30ef6



Look at the team just ahead of Colgate for improvement: Jim Nagle's Stony Brook.


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[> [> Re: 2015 Power Rankings, LaxPower -- gate, 05/27/15 4:51:58pm Wed

Stony Brook was 6-10 last year and plays in America East, nothing impressive about that. How could they not improve? They lost to a 3-11 St. Johns team but beat a 14-4 Marist and #16 Princeton, sheesh. The majority of their opponents have losing records...and some were winless. Murphy has had multiple winning seasons. The consistency is great but growth is challenging when you're already doing well!


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[> [> [> Re: 2015 Power Rankings, LaxPower -- maven, 05/28/15 12:08:20pm Thu

>Stony Brook was 6-10 last year and plays in America
>East, nothing impressive about that. How could they
>not improve? They lost to a 3-11 St. Johns team but
>beat a 14-4 Marist and #16 Princeton, sheesh. The
>majority of their opponents have losing records...and
>some were winless. Murphy has had multiple winning
>seasons. The consistency is great but growth is
>challenging when you're already doing well!

Next year is key as all players will be his recruits(not the previous regime).


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[> [> [> [> Re: 2015 Power Rankings, LaxPower -- gate, 05/28/15 4:55:40pm Thu

We've had some good ROTYs at Colgate. We've also proven that kids like Corp, Baum, Walsh and Clarkson can succeed at smaller programs in less-prominent leagues. Their HS coaches probably have nothing but positive things to say about Colgate so hopefully some talented recruits will keep coming our way. Our winning records can only help.

Then again, those coaches probably have positive things to say about Syracuse and Maryland and Notre Dame, too.


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