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[> [> [> [> Re: 2015-2016 Success -- Critic, 06/24/15 11:08:32am Wed

>>>>So the 2015-2016 is rapidly approaching, what teams
>>do
>>>>we think have a chance competing at the "national"
>>>>level? Seems like this board talks about everything
>>>>but, but hey maybe that is the mindset. Name of the
>>>>game is winning, not talking about everything else
>>>>that surrounds it.
>>>>
>>>>I am a proud alum/fan and want nothing but success
>>for
>>>>'gate, but let's look past the smoke and mirrors.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>Realistically, hockey-wise, I don't see the team
>>>achieving quite the success we had last season. We've
>>>lost some very good seniors, including Spiro, who
>will
>>>be hard to replace. We have the Spink twins and Kyle
>>>Baun, who will form a potent offensive first line,
>but
>>>unless we have some outstanding frosh coming in I
>>>don't see us as a top-4 team in the ECAC. It would be
>>>great if we could get back to Lake Placid, but it's
>>>going to take a lot of hard work and some good
>>>coaching and luck.
>>
>>Baun was drafted by the Blackhawks and is gone.
>
>You sure would think "puckman " of all people would
>know that!!

Precisely! The accuracy of input, responses, etc. here mimics the accuracy of FOX News and MSNBC.....delete the 50% or so spin and wishful thinking and you are left with facts....hopefully. That said, go 'gate!

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: 2015-2016 Success -- 'gate80, 06/24/15 12:22:54pm Wed

>>>>>So the 2015-2016 is rapidly approaching, what teams
>>>do
>>>>>we think have a chance competing at the "national"
>>>>>level? Seems like this board talks about everything
>>>>>but, but hey maybe that is the mindset. Name of the
>>>>>game is winning, not talking about everything else
>>>>>that surrounds it.
>>>>>
>>>>>I am a proud alum/fan and want nothing but success
>>>for
>>>>>'gate, but let's look past the smoke and mirrors.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Realistically, hockey-wise, I don't see the team
>>>>achieving quite the success we had last season.
>We've
>>>>lost some very good seniors, including Spiro, who
>>will
>>>>be hard to replace. We have the Spink twins and Kyle
>>>>Baun, who will form a potent offensive first line,
>>but
>>>>unless we have some outstanding frosh coming in I
>>>>don't see us as a top-4 team in the ECAC. It would
>be
>>>>great if we could get back to Lake Placid, but it's
>>>>going to take a lot of hard work and some good
>>>>coaching and luck.
>>>
>>>Baun was drafted by the Blackhawks and is gone.
>>
>>You sure would think "puckman " of all people would
>>know that!!
>
>Precisely! The accuracy of input, responses, etc. here
>mimics the accuracy of FOX News and MSNBC.....delete
>the 50% or so spin and wishful thinking and you are
>left with facts....hopefully. That said, go 'gate!

Other than hockey, lax, and FCS fb, what teams are ever capable of competing at a "national" level? Don't get me wrong, that good enough for me. Hockey and lax could compete with nationally ranked teams last year (6 wins and a tie against ranked teams between them).

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[> [> [> [> Re: 2015-2016 Success -- Up Rising, 06/24/15 1:37:06pm Wed

>>>>So the 2015-2016 is rapidly approaching, what teams
>>do
>>>>we think have a chance competing at the "national"
>>>>level? Seems like this board talks about everything
>>>>but, but hey maybe that is the mindset. Name of the
>>>>game is winning, not talking about everything else
>>>>that surrounds it.
>>>>
>>>>I am a proud alum/fan and want nothing but success
>>for
>>>>'gate, but let's look past the smoke and mirrors.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>Realistically, hockey-wise, I don't see the team
>>>achieving quite the success we had last season. We've
>>>lost some very good seniors, including Spiro, who
>will
>>>be hard to replace. We have the Spink twins and Kyle
>>>Baun, who will form a potent offensive first line,
>but
>>>unless we have some outstanding frosh coming in I
>>>don't see us as a top-4 team in the ECAC. It would be
>>>great if we could get back to Lake Placid, but it's
>>>going to take a lot of hard work and some good
>>>coaching and luck.
>>
>>Baun was drafted by the Blackhawks and is gone.
>
>You sure would think "puckman " of all people would
>know that!!

I think this is a good post/question. I'll take a crack at it, If I leave some sports I apologize.

If we are talking "national" level only (NCAA) here we go.

FB-NO Shot (I aught to get an ear full from the faithful that are still living in the glory years.)
WSOC-Slight Chance (losing their top asst. will hurt)
MSOC-Slight Chance (think this program is on the upswing though)
VB-Good Chance-depends on recruiting I guess, program always seems to be knocking on the door, which is a good thing.
FH- NO Shot (deck is stacked against them)
TEN-See FH
WBB-NO Way, NO How, NO Shot
MBB- NO shot-Be lucky to win 10 games (we'll see how that contract extension & most likelya big raise goes over when they struggle, and I am pro-Langel fan.)
MIH-Good chance (solid team and ECAC is always a dogfight, they will be just fine.)
WIH-Program is improving, will get in the ECAC play-off's this year, but still a long way to go.
MLAX- Very good chance-One of a few programs that has a legitimate shot at competing nationally (hard to play with the big boys all the time when the same level of support isn't there though.)
WLAX-Throw WLAX into same boat as men, but they probably have more support (Title IX)
SB-Slight chance-Not sure if they can breakthrough this year.
T&F/Rowing/XC-Sorry, no discussion needed.

Just an opinion, hope some teams step and surprise this year.

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: 2015-2016 Success -- maven, 06/24/15 1:55:46pm Wed

>>>>>So the 2015-2016 is rapidly approaching, what teams
>>>do
>>>>>we think have a chance competing at the "national"
>>>>>level? Seems like this board talks about everything
>>>>>but, but hey maybe that is the mindset. Name of the
>>>>>game is winning, not talking about everything else
>>>>>that surrounds it.
>>>>>
>>>>>I am a proud alum/fan and want nothing but success
>>>for
>>>>>'gate, but let's look past the smoke and mirrors.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Realistically, hockey-wise, I don't see the team
>>>>achieving quite the success we had last season.
>We've
>>>>lost some very good seniors, including Spiro, who
>>will
>>>>be hard to replace. We have the Spink twins and Kyle
>>>>Baun, who will form a potent offensive first line,
>>but
>>>>unless we have some outstanding frosh coming in I
>>>>don't see us as a top-4 team in the ECAC. It would
>be
>>>>great if we could get back to Lake Placid, but it's
>>>>going to take a lot of hard work and some good
>>>>coaching and luck.
>>>
>>>Baun was drafted by the Blackhawks and is gone.
>>
>>You sure would think "puckman " of all people would
>>know that!!
>
>I think this is a good post/question. I'll take a
>crack at it, If I leave some sports I apologize.
>
>If we are talking "national" level only (NCAA) here we
>go.
>
>FB-NO Shot (I aught to get an ear full from the
>faithful that are still living in the glory years.)
>WSOC-Slight Chance (losing their top asst. will hurt)
>MSOC-Slight Chance (think this program is on the
>upswing though)
>VB-Good Chance-depends on recruiting I guess, program
>always seems to be knocking on the door, which is a
>good thing.
>FH- NO Shot (deck is stacked against them)
>TEN-See FH
>WBB-NO Way, NO How, NO Shot
>MBB- NO shot-Be lucky to win 10 games (we'll see how
>that contract extension & most likelya big raise goes
>over when they struggle, and I am pro-Langel fan.)
>MIH-Good chance (solid team and ECAC is always a
>dogfight, they will be just fine.)
>WIH-Program is improving, will get in the ECAC
>play-off's this year, but still a long way to go.
>MLAX- Very good chance-One of a few programs that has
>a legitimate shot at competing nationally (hard to
>play with the big boys all the time when the same
>level of support isn't there though.)
>WLAX-Throw WLAX into same boat as men, but they
>probably have more support (Title IX)
>SB-Slight chance-Not sure if they can breakthrough
>this year.
>T&F/Rowing/XC-Sorry, no discussion needed.
>
>Just an opinion, hope some teams step and surprise
>this year.

FB will surprise on the upside and MLAX will surprise on the downside.

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[> [> [> [> Re: 2015-2016 Success -- puckman, 06/24/15 8:56:13pm Wed

>>>>So the 2015-2016 is rapidly approaching, what teams
>>do
>>>>we think have a chance competing at the "national"
>>>>level? Seems like this board talks about everything
>>>>but, but hey maybe that is the mindset. Name of the
>>>>game is winning, not talking about everything else
>>>>that surrounds it.
>>>>
>>>>I am a proud alum/fan and want nothing but success
>>for
>>>>'gate, but let's look past the smoke and mirrors.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>Realistically, hockey-wise, I don't see the team
>>>achieving quite the success we had last season. We've
>>>lost some very good seniors, including Spiro, who
>will
>>>be hard to replace. We have the Spink twins and Kyle
>>>Baun, who will form a potent offensive first line,
>but
>>>unless we have some outstanding frosh coming in I
>>>don't see us as a top-4 team in the ECAC. It would be
>>>great if we could get back to Lake Placid, but it's
>>>going to take a lot of hard work and some good
>>>coaching and luck.
>>
>>Baun was drafted by the Blackhawks and is gone.
>
>You sure would think "puckman " of all people would
>know that!!

Puckman had a brain f**t.....sorry.

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: 2015-2016 Success -- Gate'83, 06/24/15 11:31:57pm Wed

>Puckman had a brain f**t.....sorry.

Puckman is forgiven! Though I do think we'll be a little better than your forecast. I'd be disappointed if we weren't top 4 in the ECAC, and would think we'll be nationally ranked most of the year.

Also hoping football has a run, but the first few games are a gauntlet. Maybe if we keep the injuries to a dull roar...

Am also required to mention our rugby team, which is competing at a 1-AA level and was nationally ranked in 7's during the spring. Though not technically a varsity sport they are a program on a serious rise!

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: 2015-2016 Success -- maven, 06/24/15 11:56:18pm Wed

>>Puckman had a brain f**t.....sorry.
>
>Puckman is forgiven! Though I do think we'll be a
>little better than your forecast. I'd be disappointed
>if we weren't top 4 in the ECAC, and would think we'll
>be nationally ranked most of the year.
>
>Also hoping football has a run, but the first few
>games are a gauntlet. Maybe if we keep the injuries
>to a dull roar...
>
>Am also required to mention our rugby team, which is
>competing at a 1-AA level and was nationally ranked in
>7's during the spring. Though not technically a
>varsity sport they are a program on a serious rise!

Injuries or lack of will be key vs last year's critical losses.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: 2015-2016 Success -- downtown, 06/25/15 11:08:22am Thu

>>>Puckman had a brain f**t.....sorry.
>>
>>Puckman is forgiven! Though I do think we'll be a
>>little better than your forecast. I'd be disappointed
>>if we weren't top 4 in the ECAC, and would think we'll
>>be nationally ranked most of the year.
>>
>>Also hoping football has a run, but the first few
>>games are a gauntlet. Maybe if we keep the injuries
>>to a dull roar...
>>
>>Am also required to mention our rugby team, which is
>>competing at a 1-AA level and was nationally ranked in
>>7's during the spring. Though not technically a
>>varsity sport they are a program on a serious rise!
>
>
>Injuries or lack of will be key vs last year's
>critical losses.

It reaches an almost comedic level that we are only talking about 1 may be 2 sports that potentially reach NCAA's this year. Is this the apex for a school like Colgate? It would be a shame if that were the case, but winning is winning. Maybe the new president will place a greater importance on that type of success once they are settled in and can get a clear idea of what is going on. AD's are paid to generate revenue and hire/retain good coaches, curious what the perception is. Once the importance of winning is clearly outlined, maybe steps will be put into place to get a better idea on what the next steps are.