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Date Posted: 09/15/15 10:37:42am Tue
Author: Gate Raider
Subject: Re: Future Football Schedules
In reply to:
The Future
's message, "Future Football Schedules" on 09/14/15 11:14:22pm Mon
The last few years the home schedule regarding the dates of the games have been poor. Last year the team was absent for a month during the best weather. Fans forgot about Colgate football. Many games are scheduled late in the year. Night games hurt attendance. This year the home Cornell hockey game is on the same day as a football game. No one is going to stay in Hamilton for nine hours. They will pick one game or the other - probably hockey. If you want to attain a loyal fan following, schedule games that make it easy the fans. Last winter the hockey team was away for about two months straight.
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Re: Future Football Schedules -- The Future, 09/15/15 10:58:29am Tue
Colgate is in a tough spot when it comes to scheduling early season home games.
If you want an FBS game, you have to play them early and you won't get a home game in return. (Delaware won't come to Hamilton--so that hurt last year's schedule.)
That leaves five home games.
Three of these will always be Patriot League games--which means end of the season/bad weather (league games are always basically at the end of the season).
That leaves two games (three in 12 game seasons).
The Ivies don't play football until the end of September and you need to play them home and home and play them at the end of September/early October before their league games start. That's a narrow window and means you will for sure have an away game every other year during this part of the schedule (when the weather is at its best).
Who do you find to play early in the season that will give you a home game (can't be an Ivy/FBS) and can't be another stretch game (though I would be fine with that) and can't be an NEC team (which freaks out alumni)?
It really narrows down who you can play and in part explains why Colgate teams have typically been road warriors and why the even year schedules are stuck in a bit of no-home-games-early rut right now.
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Re: Future Football Schedules -- 'gate73, 09/15/15 12:55:30pm Tue
>Colgate is in a tough spot when it comes to scheduling
>early season home games.
>
>If you want an FBS game, you have to play them early
>and you won't get a home game in return. (Delaware
>won't come to Hamilton--so that hurt last year's
>schedule.)
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>That leaves five home games.
>
>Three of these will always be Patriot League
>games--which means end of the season/bad weather
>(league games are always basically at the end of the
>season).
>
>That leaves two games (three in 12 game seasons).
>
>The Ivies don't play football until the end of
>September and you need to play them home and home and
>play them at the end of September/early October before
>their league games start. That's a narrow window and
>means you will for sure have an away game every other
>year during this part of the schedule (when the
>weather is at its best).
>
>Who do you find to play early in the season that will
>give you a home game (can't be an Ivy/FBS) and can't
>be another stretch game (though I would be fine with
>that) and can't be an NEC team (which freaks out
>alumni)?
>
>It really narrows down who you can play and in part
>explains why Colgate teams have typically been road
>warriors and why the even year schedules are stuck in
>a bit of no-home-games-early rut right now.
In the late 60s and early 70s, we were lucky to have three home games a year. At that time, none of the Ivies (except perhaps Cornell) would play at Andy Kerr. We were a road team.
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Re: Future Football Schedules -- Gate Raider, 09/15/15 5:34:55pm Tue
Well,okay you win but, get some games against the SoCon. Furman is coming to Hamilton in 2017 for the second time. They were at Colgate a few years ago. The SoCon also has The Citadel, Wofford and VMI. Colgate goes to Richmond next year and they come to Hamilton in 2017. The CAA also has William & Mary, Maine, Elon, Villanova, Stony Brook and Albany (who we play). We should be able to schedule home and homes with any of those teams. To heck with Delaware.
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Re: Future Football Schedules -- 60'salum, 09/15/15 1:26:54pm Tue
This year the home Cornell hockey game is
>on the same day as a football game. No one is going
>to stay in Hamilton for nine hours. They will pick
>one game or the other - probably hockey. If you want
>to attain a loyal fan following, schedule games that
>make it easy the fans. Last winter the hockey team
>was away for about two months straight.
Hopefully the new Class of '65 arena & Riggs Rink will pull in lots of locals and new hockey fans next October. It would be nice to see some SRO crowds for at least the christening season.
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Re: Future Football Schedules -- Gate Raider, 09/15/15 5:38:47pm Tue
Hope you are correct 60'salum but, I honestly don't think the new rink matters that much to fans. Maybe it attracts recruits but, I never hear any complaints about Starr from the fans. There are worse rinks than Starr that usually have pretty good teams.
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Re: Future Football Schedules -- Frank Zappa, 09/16/15 8:26:34am Wed
>Hope you are correct 60'salum but, I honestly don't
>think the new rink matters that much to fans. Maybe
>it attracts recruits but, I never hear any complaints
>about Starr from the fans. There are worse rinks than
>Starr that usually have pretty good teams.
Starr is rated as "The best high school rink" in college hockey. Great for the 1500 fans that come though.
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