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Date Posted: 08/22/15 9:51:03am Sat
Author: 'gate80
Subject: Re: What are the current and future desired outcomes from our FBS and upper FCS games ?
In reply to: Andy Kerr 's message, "What are the current and future desired outcomes from our FBS and upper FCS games ?" on 08/20/15 4:27:21pm Thu

Of course looking at objective stats even optimistic gate fans would say we'd go 1-2 to start the season. But it speaks volumes about the change over the years in Colgate athletics and its followers that the mere mention of the possibility of an upset brings immediate contempt, on a freaking FAN board!

The last time we played Navy was in 1998. We were only a couple of years out from a 16-game losing streak at the height of the gutting, while Navy was coming off a winning season. We lost 42-35 in a game that went down to the final play. Colgate was up 2 TDs in the 4th, and didn't trail until the final minute. Any of several single plays turning out differently would have given us a win, reminding me a bit of the Delaware game last season. If I get motivated I might review the history of the Navy games I attended. We also took UConn down to the final minute that year. UConn then was every bit as good as UHN now - a top-5 team just a couple of years from I-A
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[> [> [> [> Re: What are the current and future desired outcomes from our FBS and upper FCS games ? -- RichH, 08/22/15 10:42:28am Sat

>Of course looking at objective stats even optimistic
>gate fans would say we'd go 1-2 to start the season.
>But it speaks volumes about the change over the years
>in Colgate athletics and its followers that the mere
>mention of the possibility of an upset brings
>immediate contempt, on a freaking FAN board!
>
>The last time we played Navy was in 1998. We were only
>a couple of years out from a 16-game losing streak at
>the height of the gutting, while Navy was coming off a
>winning season. We lost 42-35 in a game that went down
>to the final play. Colgate was up 2 TDs in the 4th,
>and didn't trail until the final minute. Any of
>several single plays turning out differently would
>have given us a win, reminding me a bit of the
>Delaware game last season. If I get motivated I might
>review the history of the Navy games I attended. We
>also took UConn down to the final minute that year.
>UConn then was every bit as good as UHN now - a top-5
>team just a couple of years from I-A
>.
Memories are great. True they can posit the possibles. Reality tho,is that games in different eras with different players are not predictive,regardless of similarities in uniforms. Four years is an eternity. Could Gate have a chance vs Navy. Sure. Win,unlikely. Put up a good competitive game,at least for a while,ddfinitely.


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[> [> [> [> [> Navy Hype Video -- The Future, 08/22/15 1:49:05pm Sat

You are what your record says you are.
Colgate's 1932 team was 9-0.
That they outscored their opponents 264-0. Meaningless.
I would imagine they never even mentioned it. Their record said it all.

Colgate was 5-7 with a very young team, a new defense, new special teams coach and a new head coach. Independent of what other teams are doing, you would expect the team to improve-- just like you would expect the team to have problems if most of the players from last year's team had graduated. The way a team wins or loses games from year-to-year tells you what type of team to expect the following year. That's why teams don't have the same record every year.

Here is Navy's pre-season hype video:
https://vimeo.com/136869911

They talk about "1-0" a lot. Maybe "Beat Colgate" isn't enough to get them fired up.

Most people on this board think Colgate can't pull off the upset. Massey's computer says it will only happen once every 50 games.
I like to think that this is game 50.

Let's Go 'gate!
1-0.


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[> [> [> [> Re: What are the current and future desired outcomes from our FBS and upper FCS games ? -- Gate'83, 08/22/15 4:40:27pm Sat

>Of course looking at objective stats even optimistic
>gate fans would say we'd go 1-2 to start the season.
>But it speaks volumes about the change over the years
>in Colgate athletics and its followers that the mere
>mention of the possibility of an upset brings
>immediate contempt, on a freaking FAN board!
>
>The last time we played Navy was in 1998. We were only
>a couple of years out from a 16-game losing streak at
>the height of the gutting, while Navy was coming off a
>winning season. We lost 42-35 in a game that went down
>to the final play. Colgate was up 2 TDs in the 4th,
>and didn't trail until the final minute. Any of
>several single plays turning out differently would
>have given us a win, reminding me a bit of the
>Delaware game last season. If I get motivated I might
>review the history of the Navy games I attended. We
>also took UConn down to the final minute that year.
>UConn then was every bit as good as UHN now - a top-5
>team just a couple of years from I-A
>.

I formally retract my 1-2 prediction. I'm now convinced we're going undefeated!


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[> [> [> [> [> Re: What are the current and future desired outcomes from our FBS and upper FCS games ? -- Steve, 08/27/15 1:05:33am Thu



Gate'83,

Undefeated sounds good. Very good.

I look forward to each pre-game, witnessing some hard-fought wins and upsets on the field, and those victory celebrations downtown. See you at the Inn after our first challenge at home- UNH!

Go 'gate!


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