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Date Posted: 07/ 2/15 9:48:55am Thu
Author: Joey Bonamassa
Subject: Hockey schedule horrendous


Only good thing is Providence home for two. Two home hames in 68 days from Nov to Jan. Five total home games in Jan and Feb. Thirteen total, way to send Starr out on a roll, good lord.

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[> Re: Hockey schedule horrendous -- puckman, 07/ 2/15 9:18:41pm Thu

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>Only good thing is Providence home for two. Two home
>hames in 68 days from Nov to Jan. Five total home
>games in Jan and Feb. Thirteen total, way to send
>Starr out on a roll, good lord.

Amen brother! Oh, and we lose one ECAC home game vs Brown 'cuz we play them over in Ireland. Not the way I'd like to see Starr go out.


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[> Re: Hockey schedule horrendous -- The Lone Haranguer, 07/ 2/15 9:27:31pm Thu

Probably not much we can do about ECAC scheduling. But highlights are the football/hockey doubleheaders with Fordham/Providence on October 31 and Lehigh/Cornell on November 14. A Colgate fan's sportsgasm! Get your tickets now!


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[> Re: Hockey schedule horrendous -- Jesus Shuttleworth, 07/ 2/15 10:34:23pm Thu

>
>Only good thing is Providence home for two. Two home
>hames in 68 days from Nov to Jan. Five total home
>games in Jan and Feb. Thirteen total, way to send
>Starr out on a roll, good lord.

Leave it to the good old Colgate faithful to complain about something. That's a by-product of a school that doesn't win at a high level consistently, but hey let's talk about football some more.


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[> [> Re: Hockey schedule horrendous -- The Future, 07/ 2/15 11:54:37pm Thu

Will be interesting to see how many home games there are when there is the new rink. Could see sacrificing home games this year for a few more next year.


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[> [> [> Re: Hockey schedule horrendous -- puckman, 07/ 3/15 12:30:44pm Fri

>Will be interesting to see how many home games there
>are when there is the new rink. Could see sacrificing
>home games this year for a few more next year.

Third straight year we've played the National Champions from the previous campaign.


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[> Re: Hockey schedule horrendous -- Gate'83, 07/ 4/15 11:13:39am Sat

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>Only good thing is Providence home for two. Two home
>hames in 68 days from Nov to Jan. Five total home
>games in Jan and Feb. Thirteen total, way to send
>Starr out on a roll, good lord.

The schedule was also noted on the USCHO message board recently. Our radio play by play guy (who's name escapes me) gave a good, if lengthy, explanation as to why the schedule is what it is:

"The schedule is completed and it is not going to change.

Colgate normally plays 34 games during the regular season and there may occasionally be an exhibition game as well against a Canadian university. This includes 22 league games and 12 non-conference games. Of the 22 league games, 11 are at home and 11 are on the road. Thus, Colgate is normally guaranteed at least 11 home games. Now, because Colgate will be playing a home game against Brown in Northern Ireland this coming season, the number of ECAC league home games falls to 10.

So, outside of the 22 league games, you have 12 non-conference games. These are normally set up well in advance and contracts are made, usually these involve a home-and-home scenario where for example Colgate will host a school for two games and then travel to that school the following year for two games, or this could just be a one-and-one. Some examples of previously completed two-year contracts include St. Cloud State, Miami, Bowling Green and Lake Superior State just to name a few.

Overall last season, there were 18 home games - 15 regular season games, one exhibition and two playoff games. The 15 regular season games included four non-conference games at home with both Northeastern and Mercyhurst being at Starr Rink in October for two-game weekends. This coming season, those contracts both flip and Colgate travels to both Northeastern and Mercyhurst - though in the case of Northeastern, the second game of what was originally supposed to be two at Matthews Arena will be played as part of the Friendship Four in Belfast, Northern Ireland. The games versus 'Hurst and NU/Friendship Four championship/consolation take up four of Colgate's 12 non-conference games.

The three non-conference home games come against defending national champion Providence (2) and 2015 NCAA participant R.I.T. And the game against R.I.T. is part of a home-and-home weekend. So then you have eight of 12 non-conference games.

Then you have two at Maine which are very likely part of a reciprocal agreement to where Maine will travel to Class of 1965 Arena in 2016-17 or 2017-18. Union and Maine are just wrapping up a contract much like that this coming season with the Black Bears playing in Schenectady after hosting Union last year. And Colgate also plays in the Vermont tournament. Colgate and UVM have had several different home-and-home type contracts and this may be the start of a new agreement that has Vermont coming to Hamilton to play at Class of 1965 Arena.

Scheduling is an inexact science and oftentimes, agreements are made several years in advance or long-ranging contracts are made (like with the four-year agreement with Providence that was initially reported by the ProJo's Mark Divver). There was talk during last season about Colgate playing a home-and-home with Arizona State. From those conversations on the Coaches Show with Coach Vaughan, this agreement should be starting in 2016-17. I believe it was also mentioned on this board that Colgate would be hosting Army in the first game at Class of 1965 Arena, that's another home game.

And regarding the lack of a home game from early December through mid-January, that's just how the league schedule sets up this year and schools really do not have a say in the matter. Some years there will be a dearth of home games in the first half, other years there will not be. The Cornell weekend is also normally in the second half but with the block schedule not having an open weekend after league play resumes in mid-January, a decision had to be made. Colgate and Cornell both had an open weekend in November and that's when the games were scheduled. The only other option would have been to stagger the games and play them on random Tuesday nights.

Hopefully this explanation helps. Everyone is entitled to their opinion on the schedule but I figure it helps to have some insight for those that maybe have forgotten how things work or simply were not aware."


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[> [> Radio Guy -- The Lone Haranguer, 07/ 4/15 2:46:41pm Sat

John McGraw


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[> Re: Hockey schedule horrendous -- Gate Raider, 07/ 8/15 12:01:28am Wed

The explanation means nothing. The schedule stinks. Two home games in 9 weeks and 5 home games in 8 weeks. Going to Ireland to play hockey is dumb and without benefit. Having the Cornell hockey game on the same day as the Lehigh FB game is also dumb. Who the hell wants to be in Hamilton for 9 hours not including the drive time. Colgate should start paying more attention to its fans if they want to keep them. In between hockey games fans could forget there is a hockey team. Good for basketball, however.


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[> [> Re: Hockey schedule horrendous -- 60'salum, 07/ 8/15 9:52:49am Wed

>The explanation means nothing. The schedule stinks.
>Two home games in 9 weeks and 5 home games in 8 weeks.
> Going to Ireland to play hockey is dumb and without
>benefit. Having the Cornell hockey game on the same
>day as the Lehigh FB game is also dumb. Who the hell
>wants to be in Hamilton for 9 hours not including the
>drive time. Colgate should start paying more
>attention to its fans if they want to keep them. In
>between hockey games fans could forget there is a
>hockey team. Good for basketball, however.

Have to admit you're correct :(


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[> [> [> Re: Hockey schedule horrendous -- Gate Raider, 07/10/15 9:20:50pm Fri

The schedule has nothing to do with students attending games. The students don't attend games. A couple hundred might show up for football but they are gone by halftime. The only hockey game they come to is Cornell. When you leave a huge gap with no home games, folks find other things to do and you permanently lose some. People have a lot of options today.


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[> [> Re: Hockey schedule horrendous -- The Lone Haranguer, 07/ 8/15 10:22:54am Wed

I think they are looking out for their primary fans - the students. Eleven of the 21 away games occur on days when Colgate is not in session. All thirteen home games happen when students are on campus. Furthermore, most of the home games are during the "good weather" portion of the schedule so pampered alumni aren't overly inconvenienced with stuff like, um, winter driving. But so what? All home games are streamed on the internet, for free, and many away games are, too. So, spring the 99 bucks for a Roku device, hook it up to your 60 inch 4K flat screen in your man cave and watch Colgate hockey in all its glory!

Pro tip: If spending 9 hours in Hamilton plus driving for what may be the biggest sports weekend of the year is too much, stay overnight. If the release of the hockey schedule wraps you this tightly, you need a weekend away to tailgate and have fun with family and friends.


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[> [> [> Re: Hockey schedule horrendous -- Gate'83, 07/ 8/15 9:04:41pm Wed


>Pro tip: If spending 9 hours in Hamilton plus driving
>for what may be the biggest sports weekend of the year
>is too much, stay overnight. If the release of the
>hockey schedule wraps you this tightly, you need a
>weekend away to tailgate and have fun with family and
>friends.

Exactly! I can guarantee that even if the outcome doesn't go our way the night in Hamilton will be fun. Look for me, I'm the old fossil with red hair...


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[> [> [> [> Re: Hockey schedule horrendous -- 60'salum, 07/ 9/15 10:04:49am Thu


>Exactly! I can guarantee that even if the outcome
>doesn't go our way the night in Hamilton will be fun.
>Look for me, I'm the old fossil with red hair...

I plan to have fun, and I'm the old fossil with no hair!


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[> [> [> [> [> Re: Hockey schedule horrendous -- frank zappa, 07/ 9/15 10:22:52am Thu



Oh, we will have fun, usually too much ! You know, I'm tired of these politically correct mamby pamby responses.

The schedule sucks,no matter what the reasons are, just plain horrible.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Hockey schedule horrendous -- Gate'83, 07/ 9/15 9:59:38pm Thu

>
>
>Oh, we will have fun, usually too much ! You know,
>I'm tired of these politically correct mamby pamby
>responses.
>
>The schedule sucks,no matter what the reasons are,
>just plain horrible.

Agree, the schedule sucks. Gate Radio tried to explain why it sucks, I thought his explanation made sense even if it doesn't help said schedule. Now that we've got that out of the way, can we go downtown?


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Hockey schedule horrendous -- Steve, 07/12/15 9:01:36am Sun

The schedule is the schedule, maybe not to everyone's liking, and all the same I would expect the schedule for the first year of the Class of 1965 Arena and Steve Riggs Rink to be better and thereby satisfactory. That's the focus of the program's future and current recruiting. Done and dusted.

And for 'Gate83... After all this moaning and groaning I am ready to go downtown. I am not gonna wait. One more look at the webcam of the new building site- next week the first steel in erected- and I am off. See you there. And we can agree to agree on the recent thread about WBB where I am confident your last post is right.

Go 'gate!


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Hockey schedule horrendous -- 60'salum, 07/12/15 11:06:27am Sun

>The schedule is the schedule, maybe not to everyone's
>liking, and all the same I would expect the schedule
>for the first year of the Class of 1965 Arena and
>Steve Riggs Rink to be better and thereby
>satisfactory. That's the focus of the program's future
>and current recruiting. Done and dusted.
>
>And for 'Gate83... After all this moaning and groaning
>I am ready to go downtown. I am not gonna wait. One
>more look at the webcam of the new building site- next
>week the first steel in erected- and I am off. See you
>there. And we can agree to agree on the recent thread
>about WBB where I am confident your last post is right.
>
>Go 'gate!

Now the only debate is: are we meeting at Hickeys or the Bluebird?


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Hockey schedule horrendous -- zappa, 07/13/15 8:18:01am Mon

>>The schedule is the schedule, maybe not to everyone's
>>liking, and all the same I would expect the schedule
>>for the first year of the Class of 1965 Arena and
>>Steve Riggs Rink to be better and thereby
>>satisfactory. That's the focus of the program's future
>>and current recruiting. Done and dusted.
>>
>>And for 'Gate83... After all this moaning and groaning
>>I am ready to go downtown. I am not gonna wait. One
>>more look at the webcam of the new building site- next
>>week the first steel in erected- and I am off. See you
>>there. And we can agree to agree on the recent thread
>>about WBB where I am confident your last post is
>right.
>>
>>Go 'gate!
>
>Now the only debate is: are we meeting at Hickeys or
>the Bluebird?

Jim and Betty's


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Hockey schedule horrendous -- zappa, 07/13/15 8:21:44am Mon

>>>The schedule is the schedule, maybe not to everyone's
>>>liking, and all the same I would expect the schedule
>>>for the first year of the Class of 1965 Arena and
>>>Steve Riggs Rink to be better and thereby
>>>satisfactory. That's the focus of the program's
>future
>>>and current recruiting. Done and dusted.
>>>
>>>And for 'Gate83... After all this moaning and
>groaning

BTW...Teams heading to Italy again late August per Colgate forum on USCHO, games and dark skinned women !
>>>I am ready to go downtown. I am not gonna wait. One
>>>more look at the webcam of the new building site-
>next
>>>week the first steel in erected- and I am off. See
>you
>>>there. And we can agree to agree on the recent thread
>>>about WBB where I am confident your last post is
>>right.
>>>
>>>Go 'gate!
>>
>>Now the only debate is: are we meeting at Hickeys or
>>the Bluebird?
>
>Jim and Betty's


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Hockey schedule horrendous -- Zappa, 07/13/15 8:31:03am Mon

>>>>The schedule is the schedule, maybe not to
>everyone's
>>>>liking, and all the same I would expect the schedule
>>>>for the first year of the Class of 1965 Arena and
>>>>Steve Riggs Rink to be better and thereby
>>>>satisfactory. That's the focus of the program's
>>future
>>>>and current recruiting. Done and dusted.
>>>>
>>>>And for 'Gate83... After all this moaning and
>>groaning
>
>BTW...Teams heading to Italy again late August per
>Colgate forum on USCHO, games and dark skinned women !
>>>>I am ready to go downtown. I am not gonna wait. One
>>>>more look at the webcam of the new building site-
>>next
>>>>week the first steel in erected- and I am off. See
>>you
>>>>there. And we can agree to agree on the recent
>thread
>>>>about WBB where I am confident your last post is
>>>right.
>>>>
>>>>Go 'gate!
>>>
>>>Now the only debate is: are we meeting at Hickeys or
>>>the Bluebird?
>>
>>Jim and Betty's

BTW...Teams heading to Italy again in August ! Per Colgate forum on USCHO.com


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