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Date Posted: 08/14/15 8:17:42pm Fri
Author: gate
Subject: Re: college life at Colgate
In reply to: Fordham alum 's message, "college life at Colgate" on 08/13/15 3:57:57pm Thu

Fordham Alum,

Sorry to bore some, but I smiled at your daughter's interests. I am a teacher and earned my BA and MAT from Colgate. Every interview at every school in every department knew of Colgate. Not just because of its reputation, but because they had hired Colgate graduates and said they were some of the best in education and in their fields. I was deciding between Brown and Colgate for grad school (having been accepted to both). The Dean at Brown phoned me for a personal interview. In the end, she herself acknowledged Colgate's small but nationally recognized program and inferred that I would be crazy not to go there. I turned down an Ivy for the second time (undergrad being the other) and never regretted the choice. I am a legacy at Colgate, however, with several siblings, uncles, and a grandfather having attended.

The MAT program at Colgate was only 1 year, full time (which I recommend, get it over with), with an incredible internship in my field. I also received full financial aid, even as a grad student. In that regard, Colgate treated me just like any other student, irregardless of my graduate status.

Thank you for sharing the other schools. I can't speak for everyone, but Hamilton College, while a terrific school, is a bitter pill to swallow for most Colgate students, much like Cornell! IMO, Hamilton fits the mold that USNews&WR rankings and high school counselors admire more than say, Colgate's rah, rah, preppy, Greek, jock-school mentality. I never thought I would see the day it would surpass Colgate in selectivity. Never. (FWIW, I have half of my second masters in higher ed admin.)

On a personal level, I was not into the Greek scene but found a great niche just the same. I am a die-hard Red Raider but believe there is apathy among students. I am very proud that Colgate has been ranked as having the second-highest D-I graduation rate for student athletes, behind only Notre Dame. Not only are our athletes intelligent, but we have winning traditions and many athletes play in the pros.

As much as I appreciated Colgate as a student, I appreciate it even more as a graduate. And yes, having NYS certification is golden and offers reciprocity with most states that do not even require a master's degree.

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[> Re: college life at Colgate -- FU Alum, 08/14/15 9:41:03pm Fri

I must say, THANK YOU ALL. The feedback I have received from you all has been incredibly valuable. It's a nerve-wracking experience to go through this process with your first born child (and a daughter no less for all the obvious concerns), but I really thank you all for the insights. 'gate, I appreciate your thoughts on the education program -- the head of the department really made a strong impression on us, and I agree, it's hard to do better than NY State for teachers.

I think we might go back in the fall for a football game, and perhaps take in a hockey game in the winter (although the Cornell game would be a tough ticket). One thing I forgot to add was how charming I thought the town of Hamilton was - yes, it's small, but it looks fun too!

I took an informal poll of the Fordham guys on the message board and their praise for Colgate and Colgate people was unanimous --- said Colgate grads they've interacted with are the best and well prepared for the work world as any school in the country.

btw if Hamilton is out polling Colgate, there is something really wrong with that based on what we saw.

thanks very much - I'm going to encourage my daughter to apply early decision and keep my fingers crossed. thanks so much again!

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