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Subject: Why raise the age limit just to lower it? Per the MAO website for currently cycle 25 age is 18-28, but cycle 26 is 17-27. Local directors seem unaware of change . Feeling bad for those 1997 girls who thought they had this year and next year to compete Author: No name [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 12:22:38 03/07/24 Thu Author Host/IP: 96-83-118-198-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net/96.83.118.198 [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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Subject Author Date Based on this change, Miss America can be a 17-year-old in the middle of her senior year of high school. Silly! (NT) No name (173-22-248-23.client.mchsi.com/173.22.248.23) 14:23:24 03/07/24 Thu Back in MAO 1.0, this was also the case. To be eligible for Miss instead of teen, you had to be a senior in high school OR 18 years old, so many 17-year-old seniors chose to compete in Miss in my state back then. Not sure why, I wanted to stay in Teen as long as I could! (NT) -- No name, 14:34:52 03/07/24 Thu (098-146-192-217.res.spectrum.com/98.146.192.217) But without that "at least a senior in high school distinction" that there used to be then, this will make many junior girls ineligible for Teen. They will have to compete for Miss as Juniors. Also how is a state titleholder or a Miss America going to have time for that and senior year of high school?! (NT) -- No name, 16:18:22 03/07/24 Thu (83.sub-174-192-71.myvzw.com/174.192.71.83) Juniors being eligible for Miss is ridiculous. Hope they change this. (NT) -- No name, 11:07:33 03/15/24 Fri (128-092-047-106.biz.spectrum.com/128.92.47.106) I can confirm that the age ranges on the website are wrong and are subject to change to fit the eligibility requirements stated in the contact that the cut of is indeed 28 years of age. (NT) No name (NoHost/31.192.1.31) 07:10:33 03/08/24 Fri We were told that max age of 28 is correct for the current cycle but will be dropping to 27 for the next cycle. (NT) -- No name, 19:19:36 03/08/24 Fri (67.sub-174-211-165.myvzw.com/174.211.165.67) Absolutely unfair to the girls that thought they’d have one more year than they do. (NT) -- No name, 21:41:02 03/08/24 Fri (130.syracuse-06rh15rt.ny.dial-access.att.net/12.75.117.130) It's not unfair since they don't have a RIGHT to another year. The MAO changes the rules EVERY season. And from their track record, I don't trust anything the MAO says will happen, will happen- remember that fabulous 100th Shantel kept promising/ gaslighting us with for two years?? We've had plenty of evidence for many years that the MAO doesn't keep their word, why would any thinking person believe they would now? (NT) -- Ugly lesson of duplicitous people & businesses from a program that's supposed to empower young women, 12:52:12 03/09/24 Sat (NoHost/104.28.78.188) Nobody has a “right” to anything in pageants, but that doesn’t make the situation any less unfair. (NT) -- No name, 15:46:45 03/09/24 Sat (c-76-155-238-54.hsd1.co.comcast.net/76.155.238.54) I don't know that it's "unfair" since it's ample warning. Unfair would have been the 2002 pageant season (either 2002 or 2003) when they pushed the birth month out. It used to be the cutoff was September and they moved it to December. So the age restriction read "you must be 24 years old as of September 30th of the year of Miss A finals" and was changed to "you must be 24 years old as of December 31st of the Miss A finals" MID SEASON. So girls who were turning 25 in October, November, and December were suddenly ineligible. This affected one of my friends who had won a local title, then had to give it up because they changed the age restriction and she hadn't yet signed the state contract and state wouldn't allow her to sign. Now THAT wasn't fair. She almost sued, but her lawyer said it was the local that was in breach since she hadn't signed state yet and she didn't want to sue the local (NT) -- No name, 19:14:05 03/11/24 Mon (072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) Are we supposed to take your confirmation as more official than the official memo that came directly from MAO with the age changes? (NT) -- No name, 20:39:00 03/08/24 Fri (NoHost/65.49.97.151) The dates on the new contestant contract for Cycle 26, very clearly state a contestant must be born in the years 1998-2008. (NT) -- No name, 20:41:41 03/08/24 Fri (NoHost/65.49.97.151) Does anyone have any insight as to why? Curious since it was just raised why drop it down a year? (NT) No name (NoHost/104.28.76.235) 21:34:56 03/09/24 Sat Bc the majority of pageant 'girls' who are 28yos look long in the tooth. They look OLD compared to the traditional college-aged 'Miss'. Bad for the brand. (NT) -- No name, 20:07:45 03/10/24 Sun (bhs4.nux.net/167.114.175.21) Speak for yourself honey. I’m nearing 30 and people still confuse me for the teens. -- The girls you think are so “old looking” aren’t even at the top of the range., 00:09:56 03/11/24 Mon (pool-173-79-206-245.washdc.fios.verizon.net/173.79.206.245) I said, a majority are-- not every one, and sorry you don't realize there's no way for it to be personal. Talk about an ego! (NT) -- me me it's all about meeeeeeeee!, 10:49:08 03/11/24 Mon (bhs3.nux.net/54.39.48.111) I'm sure the 27 year olds look like babies (NT) -- No name, 19:18:04 03/11/24 Mon (072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) I disagree. I’ve seen youthful looking older titleholders and some of the young titleholders look extremely processed despite being in their early 20’s. Someone of the competitors at Miss Alabamas teen look older than some Misses (NT) -- No name, 10:21:44 03/12/24 Tue (96-83-118-198-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net/96.83.118.198) I believe it was raised because of Covid that one year. (NT) Klm (24-230-100-124-dynamic.midco.net/24.230.100.124) 20:37:44 03/10/24 Sun They made a instagram post when grace stanke just won. She was in a beauty chair getting dolled up. They said they increased the age limit to 28 because a certain high % of women hold college debt. BUT THEN THEY REVOKE IT. Make that make sense. (NT) -- No Name., 02:26:43 03/12/24 Tue (NoHost/31.192.1.31) Because the original 2020 age eligibility was 25 years old above on or after January 1st, 1995. However, it had been extended to a year due to the delay and this made a grandfather clause. (NT) -- No name, 10:35:29 03/12/24 Tue (NoHost/124.6.179.182) I feel SO BAD for all the 1997 girls that thought they would have an extra year to get their dream. Has Robin communicated this to anyone during her director meetings? (NT) No Name (NoHost/31.192.1.31) 17:39:14 03/11/24 Mon This is so wrong. They better fix that (NT) -- No name, 00:52:15 03/13/24 Wed (136-56-73-253.googlefiber.net/136.56.73.253) Feel bad for those women? Really---when they had how many years to compete year after year after year (and probably in multiple of border-hoping states)....they had plenty of chances. -- By now those born in 1997 should be in graduate school, working jobs and even being married., 11:32:08 03/13/24 Wed (075-128-209-206.res.spectrum.com/75.128.209.206) Sure, it should be the same amount of years for EVERYONE. Stop changing it over and over. What if you took time off expecting to have a certain amount of time. It’s disappointing (NT) -- No name, 12:41:50 03/13/24 Wed (136-56-73-253.googlefiber.net/136.56.73.253) Exactly. The 28yo extension was simply a money grab. The girls who compete at that age were typically already in the program, don't have what it takes to win, but feel they have to try 'one last time'. *In a fair state*, if you haven't won in 2-4 state competitions, depending on the size of the state, you won't. And before you post anecdotal stories of how Susie won on her 7th try, don't. We all know the girl who is wonderful, but lacking somehow who keeps hoping she'll win, by only changing her gown. (NT) -- No name, 12:47:31 03/13/24 Wed (NoHost/104.28.104.79) So then make it a state competition limit. TN used to have one that said you could only compete at state a total of 3 times, even if you didn't age out (NT) -- No name, 15:10:34 03/13/24 Wed (072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) That’s assuming everyone woman got into pageants right at 17/18. If we want to keep brining woman into pageantry we have to stop operating from those assumptions (NT) -- No name, 14:14:15 03/13/24 Wed (96-83-118-198-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net/96.83.118.198) Seriously, how many of the 26, 27, & 28yo's are new comers to pageantry? It's a money grab by Robin. (NT) -- No name, 16:09:06 03/16/24 Sat (NoHost/104.28.103.81) I know several young woman who got started in their early 20’s (22-23) COVID put a half and are still in their early years at 25,26,27 (NT) -- No name, 23:04:59 03/16/24 Sat (NoHost/104.28.92.201) Maybe the website just needs updating? (NT) No name (109.indianapolis-10rh16rt-11rh15rt.in.dial-access.att.net/12.74.54.109) 16:30:59 03/13/24 Wed I say cut the age down to 24 or 25. We don't need these 27/28 year olds who can barely win a local clogging up the state system. Unless you are in medical school you would not be able to use the scholarship at that age [if you are still using education as your eligibility]. At 28 a contestant would have 10 YEARS of competition under her belt. TBH if you can't get it done in 5 or 6 years, it's not going to happen for you. (NT) No name (NoHost/156.63.69.142) 09:01:51 03/15/24 Fri Not everyone starts pageants at 18, hope that helps! (NT) -- No name, 19:52:07 03/16/24 Sat (mobile-166-199-099-098.mycingular.net/166.199.99.98) That may have been true in the past but if you were almost at your peak or there pre covid, then the covid years wiped that out for many girls! (NT) -- my view, 18:42:31 03/18/24 Mon (99-152-119-100.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net/99.152.119.100) Lol, if anything, because of Covid, older girls got involved. I know some who placed well, took a couple years off and then Covid made them take an extra year off, and now they were left with two years to compete. And personally, I know at least 7 women who got involved at 25/26. Back when Grace Stanke just won, Miss America dolled up her in a beauty chair and made a post of “bring back the four points” AND “raising the age limit to 28 because 48% of women hold college age debt and this would help them with their post graduate degree”. Don’t believe me? Stroll all the way down on their Instagram page to look for yourself. The post is still there. (NT) -- No name, 00:04:11 03/19/24 Tue (NoHost/31.192.1.31) Why do you care about the age? You sound extremely bitter. (NT) -- No name, 11:05:05 03/30/24 Sat (232-134-68-38.clients.gthost.com/38.68.134.232)