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Date Posted: 21:45:46 11/30/15 Mon
Author: Joe Rizoli (Those bastards)
Subject: Framgov kicks off Diane, her story

I'VE BEEN 86'd

4 posts by 2 authors Last post by FRAMGOVfree at 12:28am
Keywords: FramGov Framingham Linda suspension didn
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kayahlstrom54
Posted at 3:55pm, Nov 30
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Steve,

ARE YOU KIDDING ME! DON'T pretend like you don't know what's going on, that
you've been oblivious to all of this for the past 3 months, YOU KNOW ABOUT
THIS. YOU approved the use of my maiden and middle names. Before this
occurred, though, Linda contacted me about her concern about my using my name
of Kay Ahlstrom (and that is also my name), I told her about my situation. I
spoke of it to her in confidence as she did with you. You APPROVED my using
Kay Ahlstrom at the outset. However, as it seemed my opinions ran afoul of
yours, all of a sudden, it became necessary to 'put the screws' to me.

It was about the time I had written the piece of Superintendent Scott. Linda
had contacted me about the official warning concerning that. And then soon
thereafter, I was informed I was suspended indefinitely until I produced proof
of my real identity. Linda and I were going to meet the next time I came to
Framingham. She and I spoke through Skype ... TWICE. I showed her my birth
certificate and college transcripts with ALL the names on it (again, not an
alias). I brought them with me when I came to Framingham last month, but it
didn't seem to be necessary to meet with her - that was enough for her and
apparently for you.

Still because you were somewhere out of the country, it was the excuse used to
delay your decision about my returning to the list. I didn't want to use my
present name but despite the possible danger to me and my kids (about which I
spoke) you insisted I use my current name. I agreed, changed the profile on
FramGov and began to post again.

Immediately I started gaining the kind of attention about which I was
concerned, though Linda handled it extremely well! Things were going along
fine until I commented on the topic about raising funds for FramGov. I wanted
to know why so much? Were we paying for MORE than the Framingham part? No one
answered. I had referred to another site and Victoria Adams spoke about it
PUBLICLY in an inflammatory way. I addressed it thus:

"I didn't think this type of 'name calling' of ANYONE was allowed here. It
begs the question, though, since you brought it up, of how do you know there is
"racist, religious and ethnic" intolerance. That sounds inflammatory. "Racist"
is a judgmental and inflammatory word, isn't it? Can you really make that kind
of a snap judgment regarding this indicated forum? Maybe this forum allows
such a breadth of discussion that many different opinions 'gather' there."

I was given a 2-week suspension. Then all of a sudden, this morning, I receive
this final notice of the 5-year suspension - surprisingly like Jim Rizoli's
suspension, like with him, you were looking for a way to dispose of me from the
discussion.

Don't act like you didn't know, Steve! YOU APPROVED the use of my middle and
maiden names (Kay Ahlstrom) for my protection from the beginning. I had heard
of your unscrupulous practices concerning Jim and Joe Rizoli, the lies the
libel - defamation. I didn't doubt them, but wanted to check this out myself.
I wondered if there was a problem with our viewpoint - theirs and mine, being
the same on this forum. Linda didn't seem to have a problem, or so it seemed
in my expressing my opinions as long as I complied with the increasingly
NARROWING rules of the forum. And I was. My mortal sin was NOT with the
protocols of the forum, but something else, I suspect.

The real pressure like this draconian response occurred when I began digging
into the particulars about this fundraiser. No answers, so I continued to
press with my questions then BAM, this sentencing ... out of the blue. But
what's worse are the lies concerning your reasons for the suspension, which I
addressed above.

This is a sorry testimony of how a so-called 'free expression' of ideas is
supposed to occur in Framingham. Jim and Joe were right - THIS IS HOW THINGS
ARE DONE IN FRAMINGHAM and I'm NOT impressed. But truly, now you have the forum
you want ... no controversy, no serious discussion .... no problems.... except
the failure in supporting free speech on SO many levels.

Diane Kay Ahlstrom King
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FRAMGOVfree
Posted at 4:55pm, Nov 30
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I think also the fact In a few of your great post you referred to this
FRAMGOVfree discussion list, that really may have thrown them in a tizzy. Now
we have a list of discussions with free thinkers not in a fishbowl commenting,
high fiveing, handslapping mentality, which is what the FramGov list is.
the FRAMGOV list represents sick America, a group of people that allows
themselves to be manipulated by tyranny. Of course that tyranny is represented
by the character of Miss Linda Dunbrack, she could have been the character that
played in the book Animal Farm, the head pig. It's a real shame that people on
that FramGov list allow themselves to be abused like this. That list is expose
on my Rizolitv.com website.

Steve Clift us a cowardly despicable person, but he knows that. He's the
typical wimpyand piece of shit asshole that represents more of a woman deranged
but in a man's flesh. Obviously this whole thing was a conspiracy from
beginning to end, sadly, typical of how that list is run. These are the sicko
gatekeepers to hell. How people can be on that list is beyond me.
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FRAMGOVfree
Posted at 5:07pm, Nov 30
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The cowardly discussion about this is here.

http://forums.e-democracy.org/groups/framgov/messages/topic/117RjjtVn0vUWYYpGgUFtS/

Steve Clift email is here
clift@publicus.net

Shame on him but it was expected. Evil always takes the same path, it's
predictable. I was following it on this list even saying it won't be long until
Diane is booted, it happened quicker than I thought.
She didn't even fulfill her two week previous suspension, that's how fast it
was Steve and Linda can go....you know where...

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>I'VE BEEN 86'd > >4 posts by 2 authors Last post by FRAMGOVfree at >12:28am >Keywords: FramGov Framingham Linda suspension didn >Image of kayahlstrom54 >kayahlstrom54 >Posted at 3:55pm, Nov 30 >Share Hide >Steve, > >ARE YOU KIDDING ME! DON'T pretend like you don't know >what's going on, that >you've been oblivious to all of this for the past 3 >months, YOU KNOW ABOUT >THIS. YOU approved the use of my maiden and middle >names. Before this >occurred, though, Linda contacted me about her concern >about my using my name >of Kay Ahlstrom (and that is also my name), I told her >about my situation. I >spoke of it to her in confidence as she did with you. >You APPROVED my using >Kay Ahlstrom at the outset. However, as it seemed my >opinions ran afoul of >yours, all of a sudden, it became necessary to 'put >the screws' to me. > >It was about the time I had written the piece of >Superintendent Scott. Linda >had contacted me about the official warning concerning >that. And then soon >thereafter, I was informed I was suspended >indefinitely until I produced proof >of my real identity. Linda and I were going to meet >the next time I came to >Framingham. She and I spoke through Skype ... TWICE. >I showed her my birth >certificate and college transcripts with ALL the names >on it (again, not an >alias). I brought them with me when I came to >Framingham last month, but it >didn't seem to be necessary to meet with her - that >was enough for her and >apparently for you. > >Still because you were somewhere out of the country, >it was the excuse used to >delay your decision about my returning to the list. I >didn't want to use my >present name but despite the possible danger to me and >my kids (about which I >spoke) you insisted I use my current name. I agreed, >changed the profile on >FramGov and began to post again. > >Immediately I started gaining the kind of attention >about which I was >concerned, though Linda handled it extremely well! >Things were going along >fine until I commented on the topic about raising >funds for FramGov. I wanted >to know why so much? Were we paying for MORE than the >Framingham part? No one >answered. I had referred to another site and Victoria >Adams spoke about it >PUBLICLY in an inflammatory way. I addressed it thus: > >"I didn't think this type of 'name calling' of ANYONE >was allowed here. It >begs the question, though, since you brought it up, of >how do you know there is >"racist, religious and ethnic" intolerance. That >sounds inflammatory. "Racist" >is a judgmental and inflammatory word, isn't it? Can >you really make that kind >of a snap judgment regarding this indicated forum? >Maybe this forum allows >such a breadth of discussion that many different >opinions 'gather' there." > >I was given a 2-week suspension. Then all of a >sudden, this morning, I receive >this final notice of the 5-year suspension - >surprisingly like Jim Rizoli's >suspension, like with him, you were looking for a way >to dispose of me from the >discussion. > >Don't act like you didn't know, Steve! YOU APPROVED >the use of my middle and >maiden names (Kay Ahlstrom) for my protection from the >beginning. I had heard >of your unscrupulous practices concerning Jim and Joe >Rizoli, the lies the >libel - defamation. I didn't doubt them, but wanted to >check this out myself. >I wondered if there was a problem with our viewpoint - >theirs and mine, being >the same on this forum. Linda didn't seem to have a >problem, or so it seemed >in my expressing my opinions as long as I complied >with the increasingly >NARROWING rules of the forum. And I was. My mortal >sin was NOT with the >protocols of the forum, but something else, I suspect. > >The real pressure like this draconian response >occurred when I began digging >into the particulars about this fundraiser. No >answers, so I continued to >press with my questions then BAM, this sentencing ... >out of the blue. But >what's worse are the lies concerning your reasons for >the suspension, which I >addressed above. > >This is a sorry testimony of how a so-called 'free >expression' of ideas is >supposed to occur in Framingham. Jim and Joe were >right - THIS IS HOW THINGS >ARE DONE IN FRAMINGHAM and I'm NOT impressed. But >truly, now you have the forum >you want ... no controversy, no serious discussion >.... no problems.... except >the failure in supporting free speech on SO many >levels. > >Diane Kay Ahlstrom King >Image of FRAMGOVfree >FRAMGOVfree >Posted at 4:55pm, Nov 30 >Share Hide >I think also the fact In a few of your great post you >referred to this >FRAMGOVfree discussion list, that really may have >thrown them in a tizzy. Now >we have a list of discussions with free thinkers not >in a fishbowl commenting, >high fiveing, handslapping mentality, which is what >the FramGov list is. >the FRAMGOV list represents sick America, a group of >people that allows >themselves to be manipulated by tyranny. Of course >that tyranny is represented >by the character of Miss Linda Dunbrack, she could >have been the character that >played in the book Animal Farm, the head pig. It's a >real shame that people on >that FramGov list allow themselves to be abused like >this. That list is expose >on my Rizolitv.com website. > >Steve Clift us a cowardly despicable person, but he >knows that. He's the >typical wimpyand piece of shit asshole that represents >more of a woman deranged >but in a man's flesh. Obviously this whole thing was a >conspiracy from >beginning to end, sadly, typical of how that list is >run. These are the sicko >gatekeepers to hell. How people can be on that list is >beyond me. >The posted image Screenshot_2015-11-30-16-47-39.png >Screenshot_2015-11-30-16-47-39.png 332.33kb >FRAMGOVfree >Posted at 5:07pm, Nov 30 >Share Hide >The cowardly discussion about this is here. > ><a rel=nofollow target=_blank >href="http://forums.e-democracy.org/groups >;/framgov/messages/topic/117RjjtVn >0vUWYYpGgUFtS/">http://forums.e-democracy.org >203;/groups/framgov/messages/topic >/117RjjtVn0vUWYYpGgUFtS/</a> > >Steve Clift email is here >clift@publicus.net > >Shame on him but it was expected. Evil always takes >the same path, it's >predictable. I was following it on this list even >saying it won't be long until >Diane is booted, it happened quicker than I thought. >She didn't even fulfill her two week previous >suspension, that's how fast it >was Steve and Linda can go....you know where...

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