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Subject: Re: Effect of punishing boys by spanking?

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Date Posted: 13:30:34 12/17/14 Wed
In reply to: Alicia 's message, "Effect of punishing boys by spanking?" on 11:23:09 10/16/14 Thu

>I came across this post on another board from someone
>called Leda S. which I found fascinating. It reminded
>me of a woman I knew several years ago who was a
>karate instructor and a single mother. She was a small
>woman, but she told me, laughing, that when she
>punished her 15-year old son by spanking, she
>sometimes grabbed him by his penis to hold him down.
>Just like the woman in this story, she maintained
>control when she needed to by holding onto the boy's
>genitals. I asked her if it made him get an erection
>and she replied "What do you think?". That made me
>think and frankly set me back a little, but the more I
>thought about her situation, the more sense it all
>Leda S. is responding to another post by someone named
>Dave. Here is what he said:
>"I think the thing we all have admit to ourselves is
>that we are all sexual beings. Certain things turn us
>on and trigger things in us-that is just the way we
>are wired-its doesn't mean we are bad people or
>An erect man whether on an adult male or a teenage boy
>can be a very stimulating sight to behold to a femal
>of any age. As such, I don't doubt there are women out
>there that do take advantage of every situation they
>can do get young men excited-to induce erections and
>possibly even ejaculations when possible. It can be as
>overt as nude punishment to as suble as low-cut
>clothing and a touch her or there. Knowing young men
>are quick to react and have hair triggers-it doesn't
>take much to get their homones raging.
>The ones thing we have to understand is all this stuff
>could have an impact on some of the boy's future
>sexual inclinations. If a boy's first sexual
>experience with a female is activity which results in
>him getting erect and ejaculating primarily for her
>enjoyment, how is he going to ever be able to have
>normal sexual relation with a female."
>And here is her response to Dave:
>"Dave, there is more truth in what you say than I bet
>you know. My oldest sister was in charge of my two
>older twin brothers and me when my mother was working.
>She had carte blanche from my mother. She was, and is,
>seven years older than me and five years older than my
>brothers. She spanked us all, bare bottom and hard,
>sometimes with a wood handled hairbrush that really
>stung whenever we needed it. My brothers got it many
>times more often than I did, and I got to see most of
>them. I noticed that the boys did not squirm and twist
>as much as I did when she spanked them. It took me a
>while to realize that she held them by their testicles
>when she used the brush on them. They cried and cried
>but did not move a lot when she held them that way.
>For me the interesting part was when she let them up
>then they starting squirming about and rubbing their
>bottoms. Because their penises were usually hard and
>sticking up as they wiggled, something that I found
>both fascinating and even sexually exciting, although
>I did not identify the feeling very well at first. No
>doubt her holding their testicles contributed a lot to
>why they got and stayed erect even after a serious
>spanking. I remember seeing their penises like that a
>few years later when I was 12 and had just about
>finished puberty. Suddenly I realized they got hard
>like that so they could be put into a vagina. That
>made sense, but why it happened when they got spanked
>mystified me.
>I am pretty sure she enjoyed seeing them like that
>too. When I was older I asked her about holding them
>like that and she laughed and said our mother had told
>her to do it if she needed to. She said it worked like
>a charm on them, too, and she liked doing it.
>Neither of my brothers is very big, and both are on
>the skinny side, too. And each married bossy women --
>one of them is bigger than her husband. I have never
>asked, but more than once I have wondered if either of
>them is still spanked, and if so, in what way. It
>would not surprise me if they were. Really. All that
>spanking and excitement had to have some effect on
>them later on. I know seeing them get it that way did
>have an effect on me."
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>When I compared the two posts, I realized I did not
>agree with Dave's last sentence where he seems to
>complain that such experiences hurt the grown boy's
>chances at a "normal" sexual relation with a female.
>What is "normal", I mean. And even more importantly,
>what is best? It seems to me that Leda hinted at her
>reactions to and suspicions about her older brothers'
>punishments. She seems to admit she got turned on by
>witnessing them, and suspects her brothers did too and
>thereafter sought out female dominant relationships
>with their wives.
>What do you think?

I agree children need to be made to mind. They need to be punished when they do not mind.
I was a very stubborn child. But my mom was very stubborn too! I was punished harder and harder, until I finally learned to mind. What "broke my spirit", and made me learn to behave: after spanking me or whipping me many other ways, when nothing else worked, my mom would go pick out a good switch, strip me naked, and soundly whip me. It was horrible! Really terrible. But, if I wanted to avoid getting whipped, then I should behave. It took a few bare naked whipppings to learn this, but I was so afraid of this punishment that I would do anything, (or NOT do anything) to avoid a switch whipping.
After finding out what worked, from then on, anything I did that was seriously wrong resulted in my mom stomping out the back door to get a switch. (she didn't believe in making me get my own....she wanted to make sure it was a good one!) It only took a couple of minutes to go from "arguing with mom", to being stripped bare naked, regardless of who else was there, and very soundly whipped. I learned to behave!
One episode that really stands out: I wanted to build a tree fort, and start out by nailing some boards to a tree in the back yard, to make a "ladder". My mom told me no. I kept arguing with her, but she kept saying no. So, very foolishly, I blurted out that I was going to just do it anyway. "OK. Well, let me go get a switch" she replied! "Oh no! What have I done" I thought. I immediately tried to back down....that tree fort wasn't that important...but it was too late. Even though I didn't nail boards to the tree, just mouthing off to my mother and refusing to obey her had earned me a whipping, all for so little reason.
I tried and tried to talk her out of it----I hadn't done anything! But to no avail. My mother came in holding a big switch, that branched out into about a dozen smaller branches....god that was going to hurt! She very calmly told me that I was going to be whipped for talking back to her, and for insisting that I was going to do something that I was told not to do.
Seconds later, I'm naked, bent over the table, and that god awful switch was crashing down on my butt and legs. All for nothing....well, "nothing" but deliberately defying my mother. I never did that again--telling her right to her face that I wasn't going to mind!
I got whipped many, many more times growing up, always naked, almost always with the switch...but never again for something so stupid as open defiance. I was expected to do what I was told, and not do anything that I was told not to do. As simple as that. If I disobeyed, mom got a switch, and ordered me to strip naked. I learned to associate misbehaving with getting whipped. Whippings were awful....misbehaving was awful. I tried really, really hard to always obey my mother after that!
There is no punishment that compares to getting a whipping. None. That is punishment! The switch? Just a very effective, and very convenient, tool to carry out the discipline. I got whipped with belts, wooden spoons, and other things....but nothing was as terrifying as the switch. Naked? Yes. Every time. As much as I hated it, I actually agree with it. Even then, when I was getting whipped, that made sense.
1. The punishment hurt so much worse on bare skin.
2. I deserve to be embarrassed that I needed to be whipped.
3. Humliated/humbled? The humiliation was a big part of the punishment. Being humbled? No longer the defiant, misbehaving child....I was much more humble when I knew I was about to get whipped. God I hated the saying "too big for your britches". That meant that you were about to get your britches taken off, and soundly whipped, to put you in your place and make you mind.
4. Accepting your punishment, and submitting. Submission was very important. It would be one thing if someone just grabbed a stick or belt and started hitting you....but that is not the way it happened. I was made to undress. I was made to bend over. I was made to stay still, and keep quiet. As I was taking off my pants, I was agreeing that I needed to be whipped. When I pulled down my underwear, I was agreeing that it was time. I was accepting my punishment.
If I didn't cooperate completely in taking a whipping, I would be whipped again. I learned to submit. I learned to obey. Just the fact that someone could suddenly order me to remove all of my clothes was pretty overwhelming! Knowing further that once I was naked, I had to accept a severe whipping....that was really difficult. But, if I didn't cooperate fully, I got whipped again.
I was a junior in high school, and I got into trouble. I hadn't been whipped in quite a while, and I was hoping that it had been decided that "I was too old". Well, my mom ordered me to strip naked, and she went out to get a switch. I wasn't sure that she would make me strip---I hadn't done anything that bad, so I had trouble deciding what to do. If I didn't strip naked, she would be mad, and whip me harder. But if I did strip naked, it would hurt so much worse.
Well, as she was marching up the stairs to my room, switch in hand, she yelled "you better be naked!". I just froze: I sooooo didn't want to be whipped naked, but I was very afraid of not minding my mom. Before I really decided anything, she came to the top of the stairs, turned and entered my room. And, she was carrying a switch. She screamed at me, "why aren't you naked!". But instead of making me strip, she whipped me really, really hard, with my clothes on. Jeans or no jeans, a severe whipping really hurt.
But, the worst was yet to come. "That whipping was for not stripping naked like you were told. Now, you are going to be whipped for what you did wrong in the first place---AFTER YOU STRIP NAKED. RIGHT NOW! YOU'VE GOT 10 SECONDS...."
So, I tried to undress as fast as I could, got a few lashes in the process, and then, finally naked, I got a really bad whipping. At least it was over, right? Oh no! One more thing: "When I tell you to strip naked for a whipping, you had better do so. You've been whipped once for what you did wrong, and whipped another time for not obeying me when told to strip. But you still need to be stripped naked and whipped with a switch, and fully cooperate. So, we will wait 2 days for the welts to heal, and then we will try again. You will submit and cooperate to a completely naked whipping, or this punishmment is not over.
I hated getting whipped, but the switch taught me to mind. Having a mother who wouldn't hesitate to strip me naked and whip me made me mind. I'm glad that I learned to obey. Being so well disciplined has helped me greatly since then. I learned the hard way, but I learned!

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