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Date Posted: 13:24:46 08/18/01 Sat
Author: Remington
Subject: Re: You have no clue!!!
In reply to: Jim 's message, "You have no clue!!!" on 09:41:59 08/18/01 Sat

Jim: I know a little more about NG than what the average person might think. Obviously, you know more about NG than I do. So let's have a discussion so that we can all learn.

First, I am a big proponent of single axis golf, even NG golf, but let's not try to convince our readers that NG is a scientifically superior method to hit the ball long and straight. Why don't we leave "long" out of it, and just say it's an excellent method to hit the ball straight, with enough length to satisfy most people. We don't want to fall into the "lying trap"...know what I mean?

You know, Jim, I have to be honest in that I have never seen a NG model swing, coming out of NG, in recent times. Jack K., now he had a so-called "model" swing. Todd Graves, an NGCI, has a "model" swing. Tom Sanders, ex-NGCI certainly had a model swing. Even Junge kinda has a model swing. That guy in FL, whose name I can never remember, NGCI, he, also, has a model swing. In fact, most of the top NGCIs had more or less a model swing program, where they tell the students to swing like "this".

What is this new model you are talking about? Do they lift the hands over the head? Now, let's start talking about my post, "How are you going to get all the NGCIs to swing like the NG model, when all the NGCIs have a model." How do you get all the NGCIs on the same page, and on whose page?

The executives at NG are not "smart" people, by any means, but you don't have to be smart to run a corporation. You just have to be smart enough to find "smart" people. In other words, you have to know where the hardware store is. Trust me, Jim, NG is not stupid enough, even without going to the hardware store, to revert back to using models in order to sell NG.

Jim, you seem to be in the know. Is NG going to start using models to sell NG? Which model are they going to use? This is all very interesting. I wish you would edify us, as to NGs position, in this regard.

You see Jim, this is the problem facing NG at this time. They are not selling "model" golf. That's what Jack K wanted to do. NG sells concepts, with four principles. When you sell model golf you can easily get everybody on the same page. When you sell concepts and principles (yes, even your so-called scientific "patented" principles) you get variety, and it is difficult to get everybody on the same page.

It will be interesting to see how NG does this, i.e., get everybody on the same page. I will bet you a dozen golf balls for your favorite charity that in doing so that another lie will be created. Want to take me on?

You know, Jim, 20% of the salesmen make 80% of the sales of a company. You know why? The fundamental difference is that they don't LIE. If NG chooses not to use a model (I don't think they will), then, they will have a real challenge not to lie while moving down that path because there is no way they can get everybody on the same page,without a model. The whole idea of getting everybody on the same page is an idea that is a lie to themselves to think that they can do it. That's the real problem for a corporation, and that's when they start to believe their own BS (that's not a swing method). And I am not trying to be funny here.

Jim, I'll tell you something else about not being entirely truthful, as a corporation. It becomes too difficult to keep your organization together, because it starts to fragment. When you lie you start to fragment and to get "haze", and people break off from you to take advantage of the haze.

As tiny as Natural Golf is right now, the whole golf industry is watching to see if they can pull it off, including the manufacturers of golfing equipment. Bets are right now that NG won't be smart enough to go to the hardware store, and they certainly don't have any smart people there right now. (Remember I don't use "smart" as a derogatory statement, but as Bill Gates would use it, i.e., you lack sufficent depth of knowledge to make the right decisions.)

One industry pundit said it so well, about NG, when he said, "Everytime they mark their golf clubs with the patent designation, the guy running the stamping machine should scream out to the executives, "liar, liar, your pants are on fire."

I tell Presidents of corporations to give their secretaries and administrative assistants a hand held air horn, and each time they hear and document a lie (make a note) they get $100, for blasting the horn. I'll virtually guarantee you that those horns won't stop blowing for three months, when you are at a corporation like NG. Sometimes it takes years, like three years, to instill honesty within a larger corporation.



If, NG, does, in fact, try to get everybody on the same page, you listen for the air horns.















>>There is a lot of discussion about getting all the
>>NGCIs on the same page, and I always wonder, "what
>>page?"
>>
>>NG wants to move away from a Moe influence, i.e., a
>>swing limited to Moe's mechanics, and give the swing
>>more universal appeal. That was, essentially, the
>>major argument with Jack K.
>
>Natural Golf's swing model is backed up
>scientifically, and is the most effective way of
>hitting a golf ball long and straight. Moe happens to
>be the closest living human to this model. Every thing
>that Natural Golf teaches is backed up scientifically.
>I have been playing NG for more then five years now
>and have been through the changes. The JK way was the
>worst and far from what Moe actually did. The way that
>has been taught the last couple of years is "Natural"
>and much more powerful then what was taught in the
>past.
>
>Natural Golf is doing the right thing here. They are
>not trying to appeal to the masses, they have created
>a swing model that is backed up scientifically as the
>easiest to repeat swing for hitting a golf ball far
>and straight. You obviously have no clue what they are
>doing. Get a clue before you post.
>
>Jim

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