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Date Posted: 14:13:25 02/22/03 Sat
Author: Prophet
Subject: Rate the Top 5 Coaches in AE

1. Wolff
2. Dr Giannelli
3. Brennan
4. Harrison
5. Brown

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[> Re: Rate the Top 5 Coaches in AE -- Dane96, 14:42:24 02/22/03 Sat

>1. Wolff
>2. Dr Giannelli
>3. Brennan
>4. Harrison
>5. Brown

Brennan does not deserve to be in the top 3. We all know its his assistant who gets the players to UVM. He is one of the leagues WORST BENCH COACHES. I would go w/:

WOLF---SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE WAY HE USES HIS DEPTH
GIANELLI
WALKER----THE MAN HAS GOT A SECOND YEAR PROGRAM TO A THIRD PLACE FINISH....w/ no bid for his troops to play for. I hate him...but you cannot argue about the way he got his boys to play.
HARRISON
BROWN---if UA had 2-3 more wins...he would be the coach of the year. Has four talented players...and thats all! i CANT BELIEVE HE COAXED 7 wins out of this squad.

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[> [> Re: Rate the Top 5 Coaches in AE -- Urban Barrister, 15:40:18 02/22/03 Sat

Just wanted to second the point made by Dane96 about Al Walker. Regardless of what you think of the guy, he's coached a team that was predicted by the rest of the coaches to finish 6th to what is currently 3rd place in the league. He's the only coach in the league who's team has significantly exceeded pre-season expectations.

Plus, Binghamton has beaten every team in the league except BU at least once, and lost its two games with BU by only five (in overtime AT Boston) and three points respectively (after being down by as many as 20 earlier in the game). In other words, they've played every team in the league competitively all season.

Finally, don't forget at the beginning of the season, they got a great win against Denver in the Iowa State tourney and nearly upset Villanova at home, losing by 4.

As for the rest of the league's coaches, it's hard for me to get too excited about coaches who managed simply to meet the pre-season expectations, but I'd agree that the coaches at Boston and Vermont deserve consideration for at least living up to those expectactions.

Finally, I don't know how you put the Albany coach on a top five list. Greanted, he may not have much to work with, but other than a win against Stony Brook, their seven wins have hardly been impressive. They beat the 5th and 8th (last) place teams in the Patriot League, the 9th (out of 12) place team in the Northeast Conf., and Dartmouth, which is in second to last place in the Ivy League solely because Columbia is beyond miserable, having suffered through its worst losing streak in 44 years. In other words, they've managed to beat a bunch of bad teams from conferences arguably worse than the AE.

>>1. Wolff
>>2. Dr Giannelli
>>3. Brennan
>>4. Harrison
>>5. Brown
>
>Brennan does not deserve to be in the top 3. We all
>know its his assistant who gets the players to UVM. He
>is one of the leagues WORST BENCH COACHES. I would go
>w/:
>
>WOLF---SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE WAY HE USES HIS DEPTH
>GIANELLI
>WALKER----THE MAN HAS GOT A SECOND YEAR PROGRAM TO A
>THIRD PLACE FINISH....w/ no bid for his troops to play
>for. I hate him...but you cannot argue about the way
>he got his boys to play.
>HARRISON
>BROWN---if UA had 2-3 more wins...he would be the
>coach of the year. Has four talented players...and
>thats all! i CANT BELIEVE HE COAXED 7 wins out of
>this squad.

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[> [> [> Correction -- Urban Barrister, 15:53:46 02/22/03 Sat

Sorry -- I meant to say that Bing almost beat GW. They also lost to Villanova (the game before GW), but it wasn't by 4.

>Just wanted to second the point made by Dane96 about
>Al Walker. Regardless of what you think of the guy,
>he's coached a team that was predicted by the rest of
>the coaches to finish 6th to what is currently 3rd
>place in the league. He's the only coach in the
>league who's team has significantly exceeded
>pre-season expectations.
>
>Plus, Binghamton has beaten every team in the league
>except BU at least once, and lost its two games with
>BU by only five (in overtime AT Boston) and three
>points respectively (after being down by as many as 20
>earlier in the game). In other words, they've played
>every team in the league competitively all season.
>
>Finally, don't forget at the beginning of the season,
>they got a great win against Denver in the Iowa State
>tourney and nearly upset Villanova at home, losing by
>4.
>
>As for the rest of the league's coaches, it's hard for
>me to get too excited about coaches who managed simply
>to meet the pre-season expectations, but I'd agree
>that the coaches at Boston and Vermont deserve
>consideration for at least living up to those
>expectactions.
>
>Finally, I don't know how you put the Albany coach on
>a top five list. Greanted, he may not have much to
>work with, but other than a win against Stony Brook,
>their seven wins have hardly been impressive. They
>beat the 5th and 8th (last) place teams in the Patriot
>League, the 9th (out of 12) place team in the
>Northeast Conf., and Dartmouth, which is in second to
>last place in the Ivy League solely because Columbia
>is beyond miserable, having suffered through its worst
>losing streak in 44 years. In other words, they've
>managed to beat a bunch of bad teams from conferences
>arguably worse than the AE.
>
>>>1. Wolff
>>>2. Dr Giannelli
>>>3. Brennan
>>>4. Harrison
>>>5. Brown
>>
>>Brennan does not deserve to be in the top 3. We all
>>know its his assistant who gets the players to UVM. He
>>is one of the leagues WORST BENCH COACHES. I would go
>>w/:
>>
>>WOLF---SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE WAY HE USES HIS DEPTH
>>GIANELLI
>>WALKER----THE MAN HAS GOT A SECOND YEAR PROGRAM TO A
>>THIRD PLACE FINISH....w/ no bid for his troops to play
>>for. I hate him...but you cannot argue about the way
>>he got his boys to play.
>>HARRISON
>>BROWN---if UA had 2-3 more wins...he would be the
>>coach of the year. Has four talented players...and
>>thats all! i CANT BELIEVE HE COAXED 7 wins out of
>>this squad.

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[> [> [> [> Re: Correction -- AE NUT, 20:05:32 02/22/03 Sat

>1. Wolff-Tough love baby! He can coach!
2. Gianninni- Only if he had smarter players!
3. Harrison- Doing a good job at Hartford!
4. Brown-Finds a way to hang around! Love Wilson!
5. Walker- Mr. JUCO!!

-- I meant to say that Bing almost beat GW.
>They also lost to Villanova (the game before GW), but
>it wasn't by 4.
>
>>Just wanted to second the point made by Dane96 about
>>Al Walker. Regardless of what you think of the guy,
>>he's coached a team that was predicted by the rest of
>>the coaches to finish 6th to what is currently 3rd
>>place in the league. He's the only coach in the
>>league who's team has significantly exceeded
>>pre-season expectations.
>>
>>Plus, Binghamton has beaten every team in the league
>>except BU at least once, and lost its two games with
>>BU by only five (in overtime AT Boston) and three
>>points respectively (after being down by as many as 20
>>earlier in the game). In other words, they've played
>>every team in the league competitively all season.
>>
>>Finally, don't forget at the beginning of the season,
>>they got a great win against Denver in the Iowa State
>>tourney and nearly upset Villanova at home, losing by
>>4.
>>
>>As for the rest of the league's coaches, it's hard for
>>me to get too excited about coaches who managed simply
>>to meet the pre-season expectations, but I'd agree
>>that the coaches at Boston and Vermont deserve
>>consideration for at least living up to those
>>expectactions.
>>
>>Finally, I don't know how you put the Albany coach on
>>a top five list. Greanted, he may not have much to
>>work with, but other than a win against Stony Brook,
>>their seven wins have hardly been impressive. They
>>beat the 5th and 8th (last) place teams in the Patriot
>>League, the 9th (out of 12) place team in the
>>Northeast Conf., and Dartmouth, which is in second to
>>last place in the Ivy League solely because Columbia
>>is beyond miserable, having suffered through its worst
>>losing streak in 44 years. In other words, they've
>>managed to beat a bunch of bad teams from conferences
>>arguably worse than the AE.
>>
>>>>1. Wolff
>>>>2. Dr Giannelli
>>>>3. Brennan
>>>>4. Harrison
>>>>5. Brown
>>>
>>>Brennan does not deserve to be in the top 3. We all
>>>know its his assistant who gets the players to UVM.
>He
>>>is one of the leagues WORST BENCH COACHES. I would
>go
>>>w/:
>>>
>>>WOLF---SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE WAY HE USES HIS DEPTH
>>>GIANELLI
>>>WALKER----THE MAN HAS GOT A SECOND YEAR PROGRAM TO A
>>>THIRD PLACE FINISH....w/ no bid for his troops to
>play
>>>for. I hate him...but you cannot argue about the way
>>>he got his boys to play.
>>>HARRISON
>>>BROWN---if UA had 2-3 more wins...he would be the
>>>coach of the year. Has four talented players...and
>>>thats all! i CANT BELIEVE HE COAXED 7 wins out of
>>>this squad.

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: Correction -- hooper, 20:08:48 02/22/03 Sat

>>Wolf, Giannini,Walker,Brown, Harrison.

Brennan is an awful coach!!!

1. Wolff-Tough love baby! He can coach!
>2. Gianninni- Only if he had smarter players!
>3. Harrison- Doing a good job at Hartford!
>4. Brown-Finds a way to hang around! Love Wilson!
>5. Walker- Mr. JUCO!!
>
>
>
>-- I meant to say that Bing almost beat GW.
>>They also lost to Villanova (the game before GW), but
>>it wasn't by 4.
>>
>>>Just wanted to second the point made by Dane96 about
>>>Al Walker. Regardless of what you think of the guy,
>>>he's coached a team that was predicted by the rest of
>>>the coaches to finish 6th to what is currently 3rd
>>>place in the league. He's the only coach in the
>>>league who's team has significantly exceeded
>>>pre-season expectations.
>>>
>>>Plus, Binghamton has beaten every team in the league
>>>except BU at least once, and lost its two games with
>>>BU by only five (in overtime AT Boston) and three
>>>points respectively (after being down by as many as
>20
>>>earlier in the game). In other words, they've played
>>>every team in the league competitively all season.
>>>
>>>Finally, don't forget at the beginning of the season,
>>>they got a great win against Denver in the Iowa State
>>>tourney and nearly upset Villanova at home, losing by
>>>4.
>>>
>>>As for the rest of the league's coaches, it's hard
>for
>>>me to get too excited about coaches who managed
>simply
>>>to meet the pre-season expectations, but I'd agree
>>>that the coaches at Boston and Vermont deserve
>>>consideration for at least living up to those
>>>expectactions.
>>>
>>>Finally, I don't know how you put the Albany coach on
>>>a top five list. Greanted, he may not have much to
>>>work with, but other than a win against Stony Brook,
>>>their seven wins have hardly been impressive. They
>>>beat the 5th and 8th (last) place teams in the
>Patriot
>>>League, the 9th (out of 12) place team in the
>>>Northeast Conf., and Dartmouth, which is in second to
>>>last place in the Ivy League solely because Columbia
>>>is beyond miserable, having suffered through its
>worst
>>>losing streak in 44 years. In other words, they've
>>>managed to beat a bunch of bad teams from conferences
>>>arguably worse than the AE.
>>>
>>>>>1. Wolff
>>>>>2. Dr Giannelli
>>>>>3. Brennan
>>>>>4. Harrison
>>>>>5. Brown
>>>>
>>>>Brennan does not deserve to be in the top 3. We all
>>>>know its his assistant who gets the players to UVM.
>>He
>>>>is one of the leagues WORST BENCH COACHES. I would
>>go
>>>>w/:
>>>>
>>>>WOLF---SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE WAY HE USES HIS DEPTH
>>>>GIANELLI
>>>>WALKER----THE MAN HAS GOT A SECOND YEAR PROGRAM TO A
>>>>THIRD PLACE FINISH....w/ no bid for his troops to
>>play
>>>>for. I hate him...but you cannot argue about the
>way
>>>>he got his boys to play.
>>>>HARRISON
>>>>BROWN---if UA had 2-3 more wins...he would be the
>>>>coach of the year. Has four talented players...and
>>>>thats all! i CANT BELIEVE HE COAXED 7 wins out of
>>>>this squad.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Top Coaches -- Patch, 20:26:05 02/22/03 Sat

1. Wolff - I don't like his subbing patterns but results count
2. Harrison - seemingly doing a quality job.
3. Walker - JUCO junkie - it will burn him soon.
4. Brown - he could keep a CYO team in most contests - forget wins and losses he did compete well with no inside offense or defense.
5. Gianninni - the Dr. should be responsible for the dumbness of his players.

Brennan is a comedian first and a coach second - check his lifetime stats!!!

>>>Wolf, Giannini,Walker,Brown, Harrison.
>
>Brennan is an awful coach!!!
>
>
>1. Wolff-Tough love baby! He can coach!
>>2. Gianninni- Only if he had smarter players!
>>3. Harrison- Doing a good job at Hartford!
>>4. Brown-Finds a way to hang around! Love Wilson!
>>5. Walker- Mr. JUCO!!
>>
>>
>>
>>-- I meant to say that Bing almost beat GW.
>>>They also lost to Villanova (the game before GW), but
>>>it wasn't by 4.
>>>
>>>>Just wanted to second the point made by Dane96 about
>>>>Al Walker. Regardless of what you think of the guy,
>>>>he's coached a team that was predicted by the rest
>of
>>>>the coaches to finish 6th to what is currently 3rd
>>>>place in the league. He's the only coach in the
>>>>league who's team has significantly exceeded
>>>>pre-season expectations.
>>>>
>>>>Plus, Binghamton has beaten every team in the league
>>>>except BU at least once, and lost its two games with
>>>>BU by only five (in overtime AT Boston) and three
>>>>points respectively (after being down by as many as
>>20
>>>>earlier in the game). In other words, they've
>played
>>>>every team in the league competitively all season.
>>>>
>>>>Finally, don't forget at the beginning of the
>season,
>>>>they got a great win against Denver in the Iowa
>State
>>>>tourney and nearly upset Villanova at home, losing
>by
>>>>4.
>>>>
>>>>As for the rest of the league's coaches, it's hard
>>for
>>>>me to get too excited about coaches who managed
>>simply
>>>>to meet the pre-season expectations, but I'd agree
>>>>that the coaches at Boston and Vermont deserve
>>>>consideration for at least living up to those
>>>>expectactions.
>>>>
>>>>Finally, I don't know how you put the Albany coach
>on
>>>>a top five list. Greanted, he may not have much to
>>>>work with, but other than a win against Stony Brook,
>>>>their seven wins have hardly been impressive. They
>>>>beat the 5th and 8th (last) place teams in the
>>Patriot
>>>>League, the 9th (out of 12) place team in the
>>>>Northeast Conf., and Dartmouth, which is in second
>to
>>>>last place in the Ivy League solely because Columbia
>>>>is beyond miserable, having suffered through its
>>worst
>>>>losing streak in 44 years. In other words, they've
>>>>managed to beat a bunch of bad teams from
>conferences
>>>>arguably worse than the AE.
>>>>
>>>>>>1. Wolff
>>>>>>2. Dr Giannelli
>>>>>>3. Brennan
>>>>>>4. Harrison
>>>>>>5. Brown
>>>>>
>>>>>Brennan does not deserve to be in the top 3. We all
>>>>>know its his assistant who gets the players to UVM.
>>>He
>>>>>is one of the leagues WORST BENCH COACHES. I would
>>>go
>>>>>w/:
>>>>>
>>>>>WOLF---SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE WAY HE USES HIS DEPTH
>>>>>GIANELLI
>>>>>WALKER----THE MAN HAS GOT A SECOND YEAR PROGRAM TO
>A
>>>>>THIRD PLACE FINISH....w/ no bid for his troops to
>>>play
>>>>>for. I hate him...but you cannot argue about the
>>way
>>>>>he got his boys to play.
>>>>>HARRISON
>>>>>BROWN---if UA had 2-3 more wins...he would be the
>>>>>coach of the year. Has four talented players...and
>>>>>thats all! i CANT BELIEVE HE COAXED 7 wins out of
>>>>>this squad.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Top Coaches -- iknowmystuff, 21:32:21 02/22/03 Sat

>1. Wolff - I don't like his subbing patterns but
>results count
>2. Harrison - seemingly doing a quality job.
>3. Walker - JUCO junkie - it will burn him soon.
>4. Brown - he could keep a CYO team in most contests -
>forget wins and losses he did compete well with no
>inside offense or defense.
>5. Gianninni - the Dr. should be responsible for the
>dumbness of his players.

WALKER SUCKS!!!! THE TEAM HAS SO MUCH TALENT!! THEY SHOULD BE TOP 3. EVERY PLAYER ON THE ROSTER HAS UNDERACHIEVED THIS SEASON CUZ OF COACH AL. Please inform me of the games that BU won that took anyone by surprise. They have 1 quality win (v. Denv) and plenty of horrible losses (dart to name one) Also, coach Al has ruined Jeff St. Fort's career!
>
>Brennan is a comedian first and a coach second - check
>his lifetime stats!!!
>
>>>>Wolf, Giannini,Walker,Brown, Harrison.
>>
>>Brennan is an awful coach!!!
>>
>>
>>1. Wolff-Tough love baby! He can coach!
>>>2. Gianninni- Only if he had smarter players!
>>>3. Harrison- Doing a good job at Hartford!
>>>4. Brown-Finds a way to hang around! Love Wilson!
>>>5. Walker- Mr. JUCO!!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-- I meant to say that Bing almost beat GW.
>>>>They also lost to Villanova (the game before GW),
>but
>>>>it wasn't by 4.
>>>>
>>>>>Just wanted to second the point made by Dane96
>about
>>>>>Al Walker. Regardless of what you think of the
>guy,
>>>>>he's coached a team that was predicted by the rest
>>of
>>>>>the coaches to finish 6th to what is currently 3rd
>>>>>place in the league. He's the only coach in the
>>>>>league who's team has significantly exceeded
>>>>>pre-season expectations.
>>>>>
>>>>>Plus, Binghamton has beaten every team in the
>league
>>>>>except BU at least once, and lost its two games
>with
>>>>>BU by only five (in overtime AT Boston) and three
>>>>>points respectively (after being down by as many as
>>>20
>>>>>earlier in the game). In other words, they've
>>played
>>>>>every team in the league competitively all season.
>>>>>
>>>>>Finally, don't forget at the beginning of the
>>season,
>>>>>they got a great win against Denver in the Iowa
>>State
>>>>>tourney and nearly upset Villanova at home, losing
>>by
>>>>>4.
>>>>>
>>>>>As for the rest of the league's coaches, it's hard
>>>for
>>>>>me to get too excited about coaches who managed
>>>simply
>>>>>to meet the pre-season expectations, but I'd agree
>>>>>that the coaches at Boston and Vermont deserve
>>>>>consideration for at least living up to those
>>>>>expectactions.
>>>>>
>>>>>Finally, I don't know how you put the Albany coach
>>on
>>>>>a top five list. Greanted, he may not have much to
>>>>>work with, but other than a win against Stony
>Brook,
>>>>>their seven wins have hardly been impressive. They
>>>>>beat the 5th and 8th (last) place teams in the
>>>Patriot
>>>>>League, the 9th (out of 12) place team in the
>>>>>Northeast Conf., and Dartmouth, which is in second
>>to
>>>>>last place in the Ivy League solely because
>Columbia
>>>>>is beyond miserable, having suffered through its
>>>worst
>>>>>losing streak in 44 years. In other words, they've
>>>>>managed to beat a bunch of bad teams from
>>conferences
>>>>>arguably worse than the AE.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>1. Wolff
>>>>>>>2. Dr Giannelli
>>>>>>>3. Brennan
>>>>>>>4. Harrison
>>>>>>>5. Brown
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Brennan does not deserve to be in the top 3. We
>all
>>>>>>know its his assistant who gets the players to
>UVM.
>>>>He
>>>>>>is one of the leagues WORST BENCH COACHES. I
>would
>>>>go
>>>>>>w/:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>WOLF---SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE WAY HE USES HIS DEPTH
>>>>>>GIANELLI
>>>>>>WALKER----THE MAN HAS GOT A SECOND YEAR PROGRAM TO
>>A
>>>>>>THIRD PLACE FINISH....w/ no bid for his troops to
>>>>play
>>>>>>for. I hate him...but you cannot argue about the
>>>way
>>>>>>he got his boys to play.
>>>>>>HARRISON
>>>>>>BROWN---if UA had 2-3 more wins...he would be the
>>>>>>coach of the year. Has four talented
>players...and
>>>>>>thats all! i CANT BELIEVE HE COAXED 7 wins out of
>>>>>>this squad.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Top Coaches -- BearcatFan, 00:21:55 02/23/03 Sun

You obviously don;t know your stuff.

First off BingU is currently tied for third. Secondly you have not seen enough of BingU's games if you think Walker ruined St. Fort's career. The guy is in the top 10 career scorers at BingU, but is not consistent will have games where he gets the minutes but does not score or rebound. Third every player has underachieved...I don;t think so. I would love to know how many games you have seen to make such an astitute assesment.

Also, I do not see how the JUCO route will catch up with Coach Walker. It seems to me that it keeps BingU loaded every year. While at the same time still bring in Freshman and transfers, especially when not eligible for tournament. let's see next year's in coming class so far has a freshman, JUCO, and a transfer.

Also, I bet if you ask most people on this board about the team that they would really not want to play in this years tournament is the only team they can't - BingU.

Plus Walker is a non-stop worker, my understanding is that he is tireless in his work ethic.

So they had one bad loss, name an AE team that does not have at least one. Also they had George Washington, a team that beat BU by about 15 at BU, on the ropes and had a great chance to win that game.

Let's look at next year's squad at this point

Carter - JUCO
Williams - JUCO (But has two years reamining)
Adarian - JUCO
Todd - Transfer
haley - non-JUCO
Billings - non-JUCO
Hermenier - non-JUCO
Cassius - non-JUCO
White - non-JUCO
Watson - transfer
Karis - non-transfer

Hmmm, not so JUCO loaded

Get a clue
>
>
>WALKER SUCKS!!!! THE TEAM HAS SO MUCH TALENT!! THEY
>SHOULD BE TOP 3. EVERY PLAYER ON THE ROSTER HAS
>UNDERACHIEVED THIS SEASON CUZ OF COACH AL. Please
>inform me of the games that BU won that took anyone by
>surprise. They have 1 quality win (v. Denv) and plenty
>of horrible losses (dart to name one) Also, coach Al
>has ruined Jeff St. Fort's career!

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Top Coaches -- Cat Fan, 09:54:50 02/25/03 Tue

Binghamton has won three conference road games in two years. Until that improves, the jury is out.

Al Walker also allowed his center to shoot off his mouth in the newspaper about Coppenrath after both Coppenrath and Brennan were very gracious to Bing in the same story. What they got for getting carried away was a 20-point drilling at Vermont on a cold Wednesday night.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Get your facts straight! -- BearcatFan, 11:31:36 02/25/03 Tue

I love it we people try to make a point and have no clue as to what they are talking about.

First off, Binghamton has won five road games
'01-02 road wins: Northeastern, Albany, Stony Brook
'02-03 road wins: Albany, New Hampshire, one still to play
plus they were 7-1 at home this year with the lone loss to Boston by 3

If you knew Nick Billings you would have some understanding of what happened, plus you think a coach can always know what a kid is going to say. I heard that when Coach Walker found out he was very upset.

So get your facts straight if you want to have an educated discussion.

>Binghamton has won three conference road games in two
>years. Until that improves, the jury is out.
>
>Al Walker also allowed his center to shoot off his
>mouth in the newspaper about Coppenrath after both
>Coppenrath and Brennan were very gracious to Bing in
>the same story. What they got for getting carried away
>was a 20-point drilling at Vermont on a cold Wednesday
>night.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Get your facts straight! - Bearcat Fan -- Patch, 11:41:01 02/25/03 Tue

>I love it we people try to make a point and have no
>clue as to what they are talking about.
>
>First off, Binghamton has won five road games
>'01-02 road wins: Northeastern, Albany, Stony Brook
>'02-03 road wins: Albany, New Hampshire, one still to
>play
>plus they were 7-1 at home this year with the lone
>loss to Boston by 3
>
>If you knew Nick Billings you would have some
>understanding of what happened, plus you think a coach
>can always know what a kid is going to say. I heard
>that when Coach Walker found out he was very upset.

GREAT REPLY!!!!!
>
>So get your facts straight if you want to have an
>educated discussion.
>
>>Binghamton has won three conference road games in two
>>years. Until that improves, the jury is out.
>>
>>Al Walker also allowed his center to shoot off his
>>mouth in the newspaper about Coppenrath after both
>>Coppenrath and Brennan were very gracious to Bing in
>>the same story. What they got for getting carried away
>>was a 20-point drilling at Vermont on a cold Wednesday
>>night.

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[> [> [> [> Re: Correction - Urban Barrister -- Patch, 20:39:24 02/22/03 Sat

Urban Cowboy have you followed the AE this season - UA lost to Top Dog BU by 3, were down 6 with 3 minutes to go vs VT and lost to NU and SB in OT. A coach's job is to put his team in a position to win Coach Brown has done that on many occasions with NO Center or Power Forward. Think of BU without Bell and Butts or VT without Sheftic or Coppenrath?????

Coach Brown's center was lost in pre season and his power forward has Plantar Fasciaitis in both feet and hardly plays and when he does he can't run or jump.

It's much easier coaching with talent at every position!!!

>Sorry -- I meant to say that Bing almost beat GW.
>They also lost to Villanova (the game before GW), but
>it wasn't by 4.
>
>>Just wanted to second the point made by Dane96 about
>>Al Walker. Regardless of what you think of the guy,
>>he's coached a team that was predicted by the rest of
>>the coaches to finish 6th to what is currently 3rd
>>place in the league. He's the only coach in the
>>league who's team has significantly exceeded
>>pre-season expectations.
>>
>>Plus, Binghamton has beaten every team in the league
>>except BU at least once, and lost its two games with
>>BU by only five (in overtime AT Boston) and three
>>points respectively (after being down by as many as 20
>>earlier in the game). In other words, they've played
>>every team in the league competitively all season.
>>
>>Finally, don't forget at the beginning of the season,
>>they got a great win against Denver in the Iowa State
>>tourney and nearly upset Villanova at home, losing by
>>4.
>>
>>As for the rest of the league's coaches, it's hard for
>>me to get too excited about coaches who managed simply
>>to meet the pre-season expectations, but I'd agree
>>that the coaches at Boston and Vermont deserve
>>consideration for at least living up to those
>>expectactions.
>>
>>Finally, I don't know how you put the Albany coach on
>>a top five list. Greanted, he may not have much to
>>work with, but other than a win against Stony Brook,
>>their seven wins have hardly been impressive. They
>>beat the 5th and 8th (last) place teams in the Patriot
>>League, the 9th (out of 12) place team in the
>>Northeast Conf., and Dartmouth, which is in second to
>>last place in the Ivy League solely because Columbia
>>is beyond miserable, having suffered through its worst
>>losing streak in 44 years. In other words, they've
>>managed to beat a bunch of bad teams from conferences
>>arguably worse than the AE.
>>
>>>>1. Wolff
>>>>2. Dr Giannelli
>>>>3. Brennan
>>>>4. Harrison
>>>>5. Brown
>>>
>>>Brennan does not deserve to be in the top 3. We all
>>>know its his assistant who gets the players to UVM.
>He
>>>is one of the leagues WORST BENCH COACHES. I would
>go
>>>w/:
>>>
>>>WOLF---SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE WAY HE USES HIS DEPTH
>>>GIANELLI
>>>WALKER----THE MAN HAS GOT A SECOND YEAR PROGRAM TO A
>>>THIRD PLACE FINISH....w/ no bid for his troops to
>play
>>>for. I hate him...but you cannot argue about the way
>>>he got his boys to play.
>>>HARRISON
>>>BROWN---if UA had 2-3 more wins...he would be the
>>>coach of the year. Has four talented players...and
>>>thats all! i CANT BELIEVE HE COAXED 7 wins out of
>>>this squad.

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: Correction - Urban Barrister -- The Czar, 23:33:53 02/22/03 Sat

>1. Wolf 2. Dr. John 3. Brown(His team stinks but they hang around) 4. Harrison 5. Nobody!!

Urban Cowboy have you followed the AE this season - UA
>lost to Top Dog BU by 3, were down 6 with 3 minutes to
>go vs VT and lost to NU and SB in OT. A coach's job is
>to put his team in a position to win Coach Brown has
>done that on many occasions with NO Center or Power
>Forward. Think of BU without Bell and Butts or VT
>without Sheftic or Coppenrath?????
>
>Coach Brown's center was lost in pre season and his
>power forward has Plantar Fasciaitis in both feet and
>hardly plays and when he does he can't run or jump.
>
>It's much easier coaching with talent at every
>position!!!
>
>>Sorry -- I meant to say that Bing almost beat GW.
>>They also lost to Villanova (the game before GW), but
>>it wasn't by 4.
>>
>>>Just wanted to second the point made by Dane96 about
>>>Al Walker. Regardless of what you think of the guy,
>>>he's coached a team that was predicted by the rest of
>>>the coaches to finish 6th to what is currently 3rd
>>>place in the league. He's the only coach in the
>>>league who's team has significantly exceeded
>>>pre-season expectations.
>>>
>>>Plus, Binghamton has beaten every team in the league
>>>except BU at least once, and lost its two games with
>>>BU by only five (in overtime AT Boston) and three
>>>points respectively (after being down by as many as
>20
>>>earlier in the game). In other words, they've played
>>>every team in the league competitively all season.
>>>
>>>Finally, don't forget at the beginning of the season,
>>>they got a great win against Denver in the Iowa State
>>>tourney and nearly upset Villanova at home, losing by
>>>4.
>>>
>>>As for the rest of the league's coaches, it's hard
>for
>>>me to get too excited about coaches who managed
>simply
>>>to meet the pre-season expectations, but I'd agree
>>>that the coaches at Boston and Vermont deserve
>>>consideration for at least living up to those
>>>expectactions.
>>>
>>>Finally, I don't know how you put the Albany coach on
>>>a top five list. Greanted, he may not have much to
>>>work with, but other than a win against Stony Brook,
>>>their seven wins have hardly been impressive. They
>>>beat the 5th and 8th (last) place teams in the
>Patriot
>>>League, the 9th (out of 12) place team in the
>>>Northeast Conf., and Dartmouth, which is in second to
>>>last place in the Ivy League solely because Columbia
>>>is beyond miserable, having suffered through its
>worst
>>>losing streak in 44 years. In other words, they've
>>>managed to beat a bunch of bad teams from conferences
>>>arguably worse than the AE.
>>>
>>>>>1. Wolff
>>>>>2. Dr Giannelli
>>>>>3. Brennan
>>>>>4. Harrison
>>>>>5. Brown
>>>>
>>>>Brennan does not deserve to be in the top 3. We all
>>>>know its his assistant who gets the players to UVM.
>>He
>>>>is one of the leagues WORST BENCH COACHES. I would
>>go
>>>>w/:
>>>>
>>>>WOLF---SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE WAY HE USES HIS DEPTH
>>>>GIANELLI
>>>>WALKER----THE MAN HAS GOT A SECOND YEAR PROGRAM TO A
>>>>THIRD PLACE FINISH....w/ no bid for his troops to
>>play
>>>>for. I hate him...but you cannot argue about the
>way
>>>>he got his boys to play.
>>>>HARRISON
>>>>BROWN---if UA had 2-3 more wins...he would be the
>>>>coach of the year. Has four talented players...and
>>>>thats all! i CANT BELIEVE HE COAXED 7 wins out of
>>>>this squad.

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: Correction - Urban Barrister -- Urban Barrister, 02:20:53 02/23/03 Sun

Patch: You're absolutely right -- a good coach puts his team in a position to win. But a GREAT coach actually WINS a few of those close games, too, and for all the close games Albany may have played during the season, the fact is they only managed to win a whopping THREE of them in the conference, two of which were against New Hampshire. That's the sort of performance that gets coaches fired, not voted as coach of the year.

I admit, I don't know much about Coach Brown, but I'd have to imagine if he's as good a coach as you claim he'd be EMBARRASSED to receive votes for coach of the year having only won three conference games. Do you think at the end of this season he's going to look back and think "What a great season! Yeah, it's true we were 3 and 13 in the conference, but we kept it close a couple of times!" and be happy with that?? I don't think so. I think he's going to look at those close games and tell his kids that they need to learn how to WIN those close games in the future, and that keeping it close isn't good enough (unless you're playing with horse shoes or hand grenades, as the expression goes).

As for Binghamton, I don't need to sit here and recount a bunch of "close losses" to make the case for Coach Walker. Rather, I can point to the close games that he and his team WON as evidence of why he deserves to be coach of the year. Bing didn't just "keep it close" against Vermont and SBU -- they actually managed to BEAT Vermont and SBU. And the same is true for Maine AND Hartford AND Northeastern. And, for the record, even though they also lost twice to BU, they managed to "keep it close" against the top dog BOTH times they played them, not just once. (Or did you forget about U of A's 28 point loss in Boston?)

And while we're talking about losses, what about all those Albany losses? If the close games speak so well for your coach (and I concede that they do), what do the really bad losses say, like the one in Boston? Or the 18 and 27 point losses to Binghamton? Or the 12 and 14 point losses to Hartford? Hell, if losing badly qualifies you for coach of the year, the New Hampshire coach ought to be a lock for it this season!

Seems to me you're the one who didn't follow the AE this season. At least the whole season. Every game counts in the standings, and I have to think every game is going to count when the rest of the coaches sit down and choose their coach of the year -- not just the games where your team managed to "keep it close".

>Urban Cowboy have you followed the AE this season - UA
>lost to Top Dog BU by 3, were down 6 with 3 minutes to
>go vs VT and lost to NU and SB in OT. A coach's job is
>to put his team in a position to win Coach Brown has
>done that on many occasions with NO Center or Power
>Forward. Think of BU without Bell and Butts or VT
>without Sheftic or Coppenrath?????
>
>Coach Brown's center was lost in pre season and his
>power forward has Plantar Fasciaitis in both feet and
>hardly plays and when he does he can't run or jump.
>
>It's much easier coaching with talent at every
>position!!!
>
>>Sorry -- I meant to say that Bing almost beat GW.
>>They also lost to Villanova (the game before GW), but
>>it wasn't by 4.
>>
>>>Just wanted to second the point made by Dane96 about
>>>Al Walker. Regardless of what you think of the guy,
>>>he's coached a team that was predicted by the rest of
>>>the coaches to finish 6th to what is currently 3rd
>>>place in the league. He's the only coach in the
>>>league who's team has significantly exceeded
>>>pre-season expectations.
>>>
>>>Plus, Binghamton has beaten every team in the league
>>>except BU at least once, and lost its two games with
>>>BU by only five (in overtime AT Boston) and three
>>>points respectively (after being down by as many as
>20
>>>earlier in the game). In other words, they've played
>>>every team in the league competitively all season.
>>>
>>>Finally, don't forget at the beginning of the season,
>>>they got a great win against Denver in the Iowa State
>>>tourney and nearly upset Villanova at home, losing by
>>>4.
>>>
>>>As for the rest of the league's coaches, it's hard
>for
>>>me to get too excited about coaches who managed
>simply
>>>to meet the pre-season expectations, but I'd agree
>>>that the coaches at Boston and Vermont deserve
>>>consideration for at least living up to those
>>>expectactions.
>>>
>>>Finally, I don't know how you put the Albany coach on
>>>a top five list. Greanted, he may not have much to
>>>work with, but other than a win against Stony Brook,
>>>their seven wins have hardly been impressive. They
>>>beat the 5th and 8th (last) place teams in the
>Patriot
>>>League, the 9th (out of 12) place team in the
>>>Northeast Conf., and Dartmouth, which is in second to
>>>last place in the Ivy League solely because Columbia
>>>is beyond miserable, having suffered through its
>worst
>>>losing streak in 44 years. In other words, they've
>>>managed to beat a bunch of bad teams from conferences
>>>arguably worse than the AE.
>>>
>>>>>1. Wolff
>>>>>2. Dr Giannelli
>>>>>3. Brennan
>>>>>4. Harrison
>>>>>5. Brown
>>>>
>>>>Brennan does not deserve to be in the top 3. We all
>>>>know its his assistant who gets the players to UVM.
>>He
>>>>is one of the leagues WORST BENCH COACHES. I would
>>go
>>>>w/:
>>>>
>>>>WOLF---SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE WAY HE USES HIS DEPTH
>>>>GIANELLI
>>>>WALKER----THE MAN HAS GOT A SECOND YEAR PROGRAM TO A
>>>>THIRD PLACE FINISH....w/ no bid for his troops to
>>play
>>>>for. I hate him...but you cannot argue about the
>way
>>>>he got his boys to play.
>>>>HARRISON
>>>>BROWN---if UA had 2-3 more wins...he would be the
>>>>coach of the year. Has four talented players...and
>>>>thats all! i CANT BELIEVE HE COAXED 7 wins out of
>>>>this squad.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Correction - Urban Barrister-WOW!! Hold ON!! -- Patch, 02:45:23 02/23/03 Sun

No one stated Coach Brown was a "Coach of the Year" Candidate, that would be ludicrous. But if you want a guy to "COACH" a game or a team for you in the AE Coach Brown
would be one of my top 5 choices and it is kind of a no brainer to me look at 6 through 9:

Brennan is a JOKE, Macarachuk is recyclable, I have no respect for NU and I don't even know who actually is the coach there, and Rowe at this time is on wobbly legs with his own fans.

Therefore Brown who was officially hired late (recruiting wise and that was used against him in recruiting wars by other AE programs which is OK it's part of the business)was very lucky to hang on to Wilson and Levine. He also took over a very young DI program that had been run into the ground by his two predecessors.

This years recruiting class is important to UA's future.

Hopefully when Brown has 3 years under his belt and his players in place you may think differently.

>Patch: You're absolutely right -- a good coach puts
>his team in a position to win. But a GREAT coach
>actually WINS a few of those close games, too, and for
>all the close games Albany may have played during the
>season, the fact is they only managed to win a
>whopping THREE of them in the conference, two of which
>were against New Hampshire. That's the sort of
>performance that gets coaches fired, not voted as
>coach of the year.
>
>I admit, I don't know much about Coach Brown, but I'd
>have to imagine if he's as good a coach as you claim
>he'd be EMBARRASSED to receive votes for coach of the
>year having only won three conference games. Do you
>think at the end of this season he's going to look
>back and think "What a great season! Yeah, it's true
>we were 3 and 13 in the conference, but we kept it
>close a couple of times!" and be happy with that?? I
>don't think so. I think he's going to look at those
>close games and tell his kids that they need to learn
>how to WIN those close games in the future, and that
>keeping it close isn't good enough (unless you're
>playing with horse shoes or hand grenades, as the
>expression goes).
>
>As for Binghamton, I don't need to sit here and
>recount a bunch of "close losses" to make the case for
>Coach Walker. Rather, I can point to the close games
>that he and his team WON as evidence of why he
>deserves to be coach of the year. Bing didn't just
>"keep it close" against Vermont and SBU -- they
>actually managed to BEAT Vermont and SBU. And the
>same is true for Maine AND Hartford AND Northeastern.
>And, for the record, even though they also lost twice
>to BU, they managed to "keep it close" against the top
>dog BOTH times they played them, not just once. (Or
>did you forget about U of A's 28 point loss in
>Boston?)
>
>And while we're talking about losses, what about all
>those Albany losses? If the close games speak so well
>for your coach (and I concede that they do), what do
>the really bad losses say, like the one in Boston? Or
>the 18 and 27 point losses to Binghamton? Or the 12
>and 14 point losses to Hartford? Hell, if losing
>badly qualifies you for coach of the year, the New
>Hampshire coach ought to be a lock for it this season!
>
>
>Seems to me you're the one who didn't follow the AE
>this season. At least the whole season. Every game
>counts in the standings, and I have to think every
>game is going to count when the rest of the coaches
>sit down and choose their coach of the year -- not
>just the games where your team managed to "keep it
>close".
>
>>Urban Cowboy have you followed the AE this season - UA
>>lost to Top Dog BU by 3, were down 6 with 3 minutes to
>>go vs VT and lost to NU and SB in OT. A coach's job is
>>to put his team in a position to win Coach Brown has
>>done that on many occasions with NO Center or Power
>>Forward. Think of BU without Bell and Butts or VT
>>without Sheftic or Coppenrath?????
>>
>>Coach Brown's center was lost in pre season and his
>>power forward has Plantar Fasciaitis in both feet and
>>hardly plays and when he does he can't run or jump.
>>
>>It's much easier coaching with talent at every
>>position!!!
>>
>>>Sorry -- I meant to say that Bing almost beat GW.
>>>They also lost to Villanova (the game before GW), but
>>>it wasn't by 4.
>>>
>>>>Just wanted to second the point made by Dane96 about
>>>>Al Walker. Regardless of what you think of the guy,
>>>>he's coached a team that was predicted by the rest
>of
>>>>the coaches to finish 6th to what is currently 3rd
>>>>place in the league. He's the only coach in the
>>>>league who's team has significantly exceeded
>>>>pre-season expectations.
>>>>
>>>>Plus, Binghamton has beaten every team in the league
>>>>except BU at least once, and lost its two games with
>>>>BU by only five (in overtime AT Boston) and three
>>>>points respectively (after being down by as many as
>>20
>>>>earlier in the game). In other words, they've
>played
>>>>every team in the league competitively all season.
>>>>
>>>>Finally, don't forget at the beginning of the
>season,
>>>>they got a great win against Denver in the Iowa
>State
>>>>tourney and nearly upset Villanova at home, losing
>by
>>>>4.
>>>>
>>>>As for the rest of the league's coaches, it's hard
>>for
>>>>me to get too excited about coaches who managed
>>simply
>>>>to meet the pre-season expectations, but I'd agree
>>>>that the coaches at Boston and Vermont deserve
>>>>consideration for at least living up to those
>>>>expectactions.
>>>>
>>>>Finally, I don't know how you put the Albany coach
>on
>>>>a top five list. Greanted, he may not have much to
>>>>work with, but other than a win against Stony Brook,
>>>>their seven wins have hardly been impressive. They
>>>>beat the 5th and 8th (last) place teams in the
>>Patriot
>>>>League, the 9th (out of 12) place team in the
>>>>Northeast Conf., and Dartmouth, which is in second
>to
>>>>last place in the Ivy League solely because Columbia
>>>>is beyond miserable, having suffered through its
>>worst
>>>>losing streak in 44 years. In other words, they've
>>>>managed to beat a bunch of bad teams from
>conferences
>>>>arguably worse than the AE.
>>>>
>>>>>>1. Wolff
>>>>>>2. Dr Giannelli
>>>>>>3. Brennan
>>>>>>4. Harrison
>>>>>>5. Brown
>>>>>
>>>>>Brennan does not deserve to be in the top 3. We all
>>>>>know its his assistant who gets the players to UVM.
>>>He
>>>>>is one of the leagues WORST BENCH COACHES. I would
>>>go
>>>>>w/:
>>>>>
>>>>>WOLF---SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE WAY HE USES HIS DEPTH
>>>>>GIANELLI
>>>>>WALKER----THE MAN HAS GOT A SECOND YEAR PROGRAM TO
>A
>>>>>THIRD PLACE FINISH....w/ no bid for his troops to
>>>play
>>>>>for. I hate him...but you cannot argue about the
>>way
>>>>>he got his boys to play.
>>>>>HARRISON
>>>>>BROWN---if UA had 2-3 more wins...he would be the
>>>>>coach of the year. Has four talented players...and
>>>>>thats all! i CANT BELIEVE HE COAXED 7 wins out of
>>>>>this squad.

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Patch: Fair enough -- and in terms of overall coaching qualities, I'll certainly defer to you and others on this board who know more about the coaches than I do. Like I said, I don't know much about Brown himself, just how his team has done this season.

That having been said, what's with the "idiot" response, Czar? What did I say that was so off-base? Or do you just not like new people coming on and making posts? I thought this was a public message board? Jeez!

>No one stated Coach Brown was a "Coach of the Year"
>Candidate, that would be ludicrous. But if you want a
>guy to "COACH" a game or a team for you in the AE
>Coach Brown
>would be one of my top 5 choices and it is kind of a
>no brainer to me look at 6 through 9:
>
>Brennan is a JOKE, Macarachuk is recyclable, I have no
>respect for NU and I don't even know who actually is
>the coach there, and Rowe at this time is on wobbly
>legs with his own fans.
>
>Therefore Brown who was officially hired late
>(recruiting wise and that was used against him in
>recruiting wars by other AE programs which is OK it's
>part of the business)was very lucky to hang on to
>Wilson and Levine. He also took over a very young DI
>program that had been run into the ground by his two
>predecessors.
>
>This years recruiting class is important to UA's
>future.
>
>Hopefully when Brown has 3 years under his belt and
>his players in place you may think differently.
>
>
>>Patch: You're absolutely right -- a good coach puts
>>his team in a position to win. But a GREAT coach
>>actually WINS a few of those close games, too, and for
>>all the close games Albany may have played during the
>>season, the fact is they only managed to win a
>>whopping THREE of them in the conference, two of which
>>were against New Hampshire. That's the sort of
>>performance that gets coaches fired, not voted as
>>coach of the year.
>>
>>I admit, I don't know much about Coach Brown, but I'd
>>have to imagine if he's as good a coach as you claim
>>he'd be EMBARRASSED to receive votes for coach of the
>>year having only won three conference games. Do you
>>think at the end of this season he's going to look
>>back and think "What a great season! Yeah, it's true
>>we were 3 and 13 in the conference, but we kept it
>>close a couple of times!" and be happy with that?? I
>>don't think so. I think he's going to look at those
>>close games and tell his kids that they need to learn
>>how to WIN those close games in the future, and that
>>keeping it close isn't good enough (unless you're
>>playing with horse shoes or hand grenades, as the
>>expression goes).
>>
>>As for Binghamton, I don't need to sit here and
>>recount a bunch of "close losses" to make the case for
>>Coach Walker. Rather, I can point to the close games
>>that he and his team WON as evidence of why he
>>deserves to be coach of the year. Bing didn't just
>>"keep it close" against Vermont and SBU -- they
>>actually managed to BEAT Vermont and SBU. And the
>>same is true for Maine AND Hartford AND Northeastern.
>>And, for the record, even though they also lost twice
>>to BU, they managed to "keep it close" against the top
>>dog BOTH times they played them, not just once. (Or
>>did you forget about U of A's 28 point loss in
>>Boston?)
>>
>>And while we're talking about losses, what about all
>>those Albany losses? If the close games speak so well
>>for your coach (and I concede that they do), what do
>>the really bad losses say, like the one in Boston? Or
>>the 18 and 27 point losses to Binghamton? Or the 12
>>and 14 point losses to Hartford? Hell, if losing
>>badly qualifies you for coach of the year, the New
>>Hampshire coach ought to be a lock for it this season!
>>
>>
>>Seems to me you're the one who didn't follow the AE
>>this season. At least the whole season. Every game
>>counts in the standings, and I have to think every
>>game is going to count when the rest of the coaches
>>sit down and choose their coach of the year -- not
>>just the games where your team managed to "keep it
>>close".
>>
>>>Urban Cowboy have you followed the AE this season -
>UA
>>>lost to Top Dog BU by 3, were down 6 with 3 minutes
>to
>>>go vs VT and lost to NU and SB in OT. A coach's job
>is
>>>to put his team in a position to win Coach Brown has
>>>done that on many occasions with NO Center or Power
>>>Forward. Think of BU without Bell and Butts or VT
>>>without Sheftic or Coppenrath?????
>>>
>>>Coach Brown's center was lost in pre season and his
>>>power forward has Plantar Fasciaitis in both feet and
>>>hardly plays and when he does he can't run or jump.
>>>
>>>It's much easier coaching with talent at every
>>>position!!!
>>>
>>>>Sorry -- I meant to say that Bing almost beat GW.
>>>>They also lost to Villanova (the game before GW),
>but
>>>>it wasn't by 4.
>>>>
>>>>>Just wanted to second the point made by Dane96
>about
>>>>>Al Walker. Regardless of what you think of the
>guy,
>>>>>he's coached a team that was predicted by the rest
>>of
>>>>>the coaches to finish 6th to what is currently 3rd
>>>>>place in the league. He's the only coach in the
>>>>>league who's team has significantly exceeded
>>>>>pre-season expectations.
>>>>>
>>>>>Plus, Binghamton has beaten every team in the
>league
>>>>>except BU at least once, and lost its two games
>with
>>>>>BU by only five (in overtime AT Boston) and three
>>>>>points respectively (after being down by as many as
>>>20
>>>>>earlier in the game). In other words, they've
>>played
>>>>>every team in the league competitively all season.
>>>>>
>>>>>Finally, don't forget at the beginning of the
>>season,
>>>>>they got a great win against Denver in the Iowa
>>State
>>>>>tourney and nearly upset Villanova at home, losing
>>by
>>>>>4.
>>>>>
>>>>>As for the rest of the league's coaches, it's hard
>>>for
>>>>>me to get too excited about coaches who managed
>>>simply
>>>>>to meet the pre-season expectations, but I'd agree
>>>>>that the coaches at Boston and Vermont deserve
>>>>>consideration for at least living up to those
>>>>>expectactions.
>>>>>
>>>>>Finally, I don't know how you put the Albany coach
>>on
>>>>>a top five list. Greanted, he may not have much to
>>>>>work with, but other than a win against Stony
>Brook,
>>>>>their seven wins have hardly been impressive. They
>>>>>beat the 5th and 8th (last) place teams in the
>>>Patriot
>>>>>League, the 9th (out of 12) place team in the
>>>>>Northeast Conf., and Dartmouth, which is in second
>>to
>>>>>last place in the Ivy League solely because
>Columbia
>>>>>is beyond miserable, having suffered through its
>>>worst
>>>>>losing streak in 44 years. In other words, they've
>>>>>managed to beat a bunch of bad teams from
>>conferences
>>>>>arguably worse than the AE.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>1. Wolff
>>>>>>>2. Dr Giannelli
>>>>>>>3. Brennan
>>>>>>>4. Harrison
>>>>>>>5. Brown
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Brennan does not deserve to be in the top 3. We
>all
>>>>>>know its his assistant who gets the players to
>UVM.
>>>>He
>>>>>>is one of the leagues WORST BENCH COACHES. I
>would
>>>>go
>>>>>>w/:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>WOLF---SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE WAY HE USES HIS DEPTH
>>>>>>GIANELLI
>>>>>>WALKER----THE MAN HAS GOT A SECOND YEAR PROGRAM TO
>>A
>>>>>>THIRD PLACE FINISH....w/ no bid for his troops to
>>>>play
>>>>>>for. I hate him...but you cannot argue about the
>>>way
>>>>>>he got his boys to play.
>>>>>>HARRISON
>>>>>>BROWN---if UA had 2-3 more wins...he would be the
>>>>>>coach of the year. Has four talented
>players...and
>>>>>>thats all! i CANT BELIEVE HE COAXED 7 wins out of
>>>>>>this squad.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Urban Barrister -- Patch, 11:03:17 02/23/03 Sun

I respect your opinion as well as state my own - that's why this board is interesting.

There are several posters who just attack and don't try to substantiate their opinions.

>Patch: Fair enough -- and in terms of overall
>coaching qualities, I'll certainly defer to you and
>others on this board who know more about the coaches
>than I do. Like I said, I don't know much about Brown
>himself, just how his team has done this season.
>
>That having been said, what's with the "idiot"
>response, Czar? What did I say that was so off-base?
>Or do you just not like new people coming on and
>making posts? I thought this was a public message
>board? Jeez!
>
>>No one stated Coach Brown was a "Coach of the Year"
>>Candidate, that would be ludicrous. But if you want a
>>guy to "COACH" a game or a team for you in the AE
>>Coach Brown
>>would be one of my top 5 choices and it is kind of a
>>no brainer to me look at 6 through 9:
>>
>>Brennan is a JOKE, Macarachuk is recyclable, I have no
>>respect for NU and I don't even know who actually is
>>the coach there, and Rowe at this time is on wobbly
>>legs with his own fans.
>>
>>Therefore Brown who was officially hired late
>>(recruiting wise and that was used against him in
>>recruiting wars by other AE programs which is OK it's
>>part of the business)was very lucky to hang on to
>>Wilson and Levine. He also took over a very young DI
>>program that had been run into the ground by his two
>>predecessors.
>>
>>This years recruiting class is important to UA's
>>future.
>>
>>Hopefully when Brown has 3 years under his belt and
>>his players in place you may think differently.
>>
>>
>>>Patch: You're absolutely right -- a good coach puts
>>>his team in a position to win. But a GREAT coach
>>>actually WINS a few of those close games, too, and
>for
>>>all the close games Albany may have played during the
>>>season, the fact is they only managed to win a
>>>whopping THREE of them in the conference, two of
>which
>>>were against New Hampshire. That's the sort of
>>>performance that gets coaches fired, not voted as
>>>coach of the year.
>>>
>>>I admit, I don't know much about Coach Brown, but I'd
>>>have to imagine if he's as good a coach as you claim
>>>he'd be EMBARRASSED to receive votes for coach of the
>>>year having only won three conference games. Do you
>>>think at the end of this season he's going to look
>>>back and think "What a great season! Yeah, it's true
>>>we were 3 and 13 in the conference, but we kept it
>>>close a couple of times!" and be happy with that?? I
>>>don't think so. I think he's going to look at those
>>>close games and tell his kids that they need to learn
>>>how to WIN those close games in the future, and that
>>>keeping it close isn't good enough (unless you're
>>>playing with horse shoes or hand grenades, as the
>>>expression goes).
>>>
>>>As for Binghamton, I don't need to sit here and
>>>recount a bunch of "close losses" to make the case
>for
>>>Coach Walker. Rather, I can point to the close games
>>>that he and his team WON as evidence of why he
>>>deserves to be coach of the year. Bing didn't just
>>>"keep it close" against Vermont and SBU -- they
>>>actually managed to BEAT Vermont and SBU. And the
>>>same is true for Maine AND Hartford AND
>Northeastern.
>>>And, for the record, even though they also lost twice
>>>to BU, they managed to "keep it close" against the
>top
>>>dog BOTH times they played them, not just once. (Or
>>>did you forget about U of A's 28 point loss in
>>>Boston?)
>>>
>>>And while we're talking about losses, what about all
>>>those Albany losses? If the close games speak so
>well
>>>for your coach (and I concede that they do), what do
>>>the really bad losses say, like the one in Boston? Or
>>>the 18 and 27 point losses to Binghamton? Or the 12
>>>and 14 point losses to Hartford? Hell, if losing
>>>badly qualifies you for coach of the year, the New
>>>Hampshire coach ought to be a lock for it this
>season!
>>>
>>>
>>>Seems to me you're the one who didn't follow the AE
>>>this season. At least the whole season. Every game
>>>counts in the standings, and I have to think every
>>>game is going to count when the rest of the coaches
>>>sit down and choose their coach of the year -- not
>>>just the games where your team managed to "keep it
>>>close".
>>>
>>>>Urban Cowboy have you followed the AE this season -
>>UA
>>>>lost to Top Dog BU by 3, were down 6 with 3 minutes
>>to
>>>>go vs VT and lost to NU and SB in OT. A coach's job
>>is
>>>>to put his team in a position to win Coach Brown has
>>>>done that on many occasions with NO Center or Power
>>>>Forward. Think of BU without Bell and Butts or VT
>>>>without Sheftic or Coppenrath?????
>>>>
>>>>Coach Brown's center was lost in pre season and his
>>>>power forward has Plantar Fasciaitis in both feet
>and
>>>>hardly plays and when he does he can't run or jump.
>>>>
>>>>It's much easier coaching with talent at every
>>>>position!!!
>>>>
>>>>>Sorry -- I meant to say that Bing almost beat GW.
>>>>>They also lost to Villanova (the game before GW),
>>but
>>>>>it wasn't by 4.
>>>>>
>>>>>>Just wanted to second the point made by Dane96
>>about
>>>>>>Al Walker. Regardless of what you think of the
>>guy,
>>>>>>he's coached a team that was predicted by the rest
>>>of
>>>>>>the coaches to finish 6th to what is currently 3rd
>>>>>>place in the league. He's the only coach in the
>>>>>>league who's team has significantly exceeded
>>>>>>pre-season expectations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Plus, Binghamton has beaten every team in the
>>league
>>>>>>except BU at least once, and lost its two games
>>with
>>>>>>BU by only five (in overtime AT Boston) and three
>>>>>>points respectively (after being down by as many
>as
>>>>20
>>>>>>earlier in the game). In other words, they've
>>>played
>>>>>>every team in the league competitively all season.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Finally, don't forget at the beginning of the
>>>season,
>>>>>>they got a great win against Denver in the Iowa
>>>State
>>>>>>tourney and nearly upset Villanova at home, losing
>>>by
>>>>>>4.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>As for the rest of the league's coaches, it's hard
>>>>for
>>>>>>me to get too excited about coaches who managed
>>>>simply
>>>>>>to meet the pre-season expectations, but I'd agree
>>>>>>that the coaches at Boston and Vermont deserve
>>>>>>consideration for at least living up to those
>>>>>>expectactions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Finally, I don't know how you put the Albany coach
>>>on
>>>>>>a top five list. Greanted, he may not have much
>to
>>>>>>work with, but other than a win against Stony
>>Brook,
>>>>>>their seven wins have hardly been impressive.
>They
>>>>>>beat the 5th and 8th (last) place teams in the
>>>>Patriot
>>>>>>League, the 9th (out of 12) place team in the
>>>>>>Northeast Conf., and Dartmouth, which is in second
>>>to
>>>>>>last place in the Ivy League solely because
>>Columbia
>>>>>>is beyond miserable, having suffered through its
>>>>worst
>>>>>>losing streak in 44 years. In other words,
>they've
>>>>>>managed to beat a bunch of bad teams from
>>>conferences
>>>>>>arguably worse than the AE.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>1. Wolff
>>>>>>>>2. Dr Giannelli
>>>>>>>>3. Brennan
>>>>>>>>4. Harrison
>>>>>>>>5. Brown
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Brennan does not deserve to be in the top 3. We
>>all
>>>>>>>know its his assistant who gets the players to
>>UVM.
>>>>>He
>>>>>>>is one of the leagues WORST BENCH COACHES. I
>>would
>>>>>go
>>>>>>>w/:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>WOLF---SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE WAY HE USES HIS
>DEPTH
>>>>>>>GIANELLI
>>>>>>>WALKER----THE MAN HAS GOT A SECOND YEAR PROGRAM
>TO
>>>A
>>>>>>>THIRD PLACE FINISH....w/ no bid for his troops to
>>>>>play
>>>>>>>for. I hate him...but you cannot argue about the
>>>>way
>>>>>>>he got his boys to play.
>>>>>>>HARRISON
>>>>>>>BROWN---if UA had 2-3 more wins...he would be the
>>>>>>>coach of the year. Has four talented
>>players...and
>>>>>>>thats all! i CANT BELIEVE HE COAXED 7 wins out
>of
>>>>>>>this squad.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Urban Barrister -- It's all good. -- Urban Barrister, 11:25:39 02/23/03 Sun

Patch: I'm beginning to see what you mean. Those "others" aside, it's great that so many folks on the board are interested in exchanging opinions and info. It's not like I can walk into a sports bar in NYC and find folks interested in AE sports . . . yet!

B/t/w, your response on the JUCO issue was right on, and I would also encourage folks to check out that article about Anthony Green that GoBearcats referred to in one of his posts. This kid has had to deal with stuff most of us can't even contemplate, and after attending two different JUCO's and spending two years at Binghamton, he's set to graduate on time with a degree. Hardly the sort of kid Binghamton or any other school should be ashamed to recruit.

>I respect your opinion as well as state my own -
>that's why this board is interesting.
>
>There are several posters who just attack and don't
>try to substantiate their opinions.
>
>>Patch: Fair enough -- and in terms of overall
>>coaching qualities, I'll certainly defer to you and
>>others on this board who know more about the coaches
>>than I do. Like I said, I don't know much about Brown
>>himself, just how his team has done this season.
>>
>>That having been said, what's with the "idiot"
>>response, Czar? What did I say that was so off-base?
>>Or do you just not like new people coming on and
>>making posts? I thought this was a public message
>>board? Jeez!
>>
>>>No one stated Coach Brown was a "Coach of the Year"
>>>Candidate, that would be ludicrous. But if you want a
>>>guy to "COACH" a game or a team for you in the AE
>>>Coach Brown
>>>would be one of my top 5 choices and it is kind of a
>>>no brainer to me look at 6 through 9:
>>>
>>>Brennan is a JOKE, Macarachuk is recyclable, I have
>no
>>>respect for NU and I don't even know who actually is
>>>the coach there, and Rowe at this time is on wobbly
>>>legs with his own fans.
>>>
>>>Therefore Brown who was officially hired late
>>>(recruiting wise and that was used against him in
>>>recruiting wars by other AE programs which is OK it's
>>>part of the business)was very lucky to hang on to
>>>Wilson and Levine. He also took over a very young DI
>>>program that had been run into the ground by his two
>>>predecessors.
>>>
>>>This years recruiting class is important to UA's
>>>future.
>>>
>>>Hopefully when Brown has 3 years under his belt and
>>>his players in place you may think differently.
>>>
>>>
>>>>Patch: You're absolutely right -- a good coach puts
>>>>his team in a position to win. But a GREAT coach
>>>>actually WINS a few of those close games, too, and
>>for
>>>>all the close games Albany may have played during
>the
>>>>season, the fact is they only managed to win a
>>>>whopping THREE of them in the conference, two of
>>which
>>>>were against New Hampshire. That's the sort of
>>>>performance that gets coaches fired, not voted as
>>>>coach of the year.
>>>>
>>>>I admit, I don't know much about Coach Brown, but
>I'd
>>>>have to imagine if he's as good a coach as you claim
>>>>he'd be EMBARRASSED to receive votes for coach of
>the
>>>>year having only won three conference games. Do you
>>>>think at the end of this season he's going to look
>>>>back and think "What a great season! Yeah, it's
>true
>>>>we were 3 and 13 in the conference, but we kept it
>>>>close a couple of times!" and be happy with that??
>I
>>>>don't think so. I think he's going to look at those
>>>>close games and tell his kids that they need to
>learn
>>>>how to WIN those close games in the future, and that
>>>>keeping it close isn't good enough (unless you're
>>>>playing with horse shoes or hand grenades, as the
>>>>expression goes).
>>>>
>>>>As for Binghamton, I don't need to sit here and
>>>>recount a bunch of "close losses" to make the case
>>for
>>>>Coach Walker. Rather, I can point to the close
>games
>>>>that he and his team WON as evidence of why he
>>>>deserves to be coach of the year. Bing didn't just
>>>>"keep it close" against Vermont and SBU -- they
>>>>actually managed to BEAT Vermont and SBU. And the
>>>>same is true for Maine AND Hartford AND
>>Northeastern.
>>>>And, for the record, even though they also lost
>twice
>>>>to BU, they managed to "keep it close" against the
>>top
>>>>dog BOTH times they played them, not just once. (Or
>>>>did you forget about U of A's 28 point loss in
>>>>Boston?)
>>>>
>>>>And while we're talking about losses, what about all
>>>>those Albany losses? If the close games speak so
>>well
>>>>for your coach (and I concede that they do), what do
>>>>the really bad losses say, like the one in Boston?
>Or
>>>>the 18 and 27 point losses to Binghamton? Or the 12
>>>>and 14 point losses to Hartford? Hell, if losing
>>>>badly qualifies you for coach of the year, the New
>>>>Hampshire coach ought to be a lock for it this
>>season!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Seems to me you're the one who didn't follow the AE
>>>>this season. At least the whole season. Every game
>>>>counts in the standings, and I have to think every
>>>>game is going to count when the rest of the coaches
>>>>sit down and choose their coach of the year -- not
>>>>just the games where your team managed to "keep it
>>>>close".
>>>>
>>>>>Urban Cowboy have you followed the AE this season -
>>>UA
>>>>>lost to Top Dog BU by 3, were down 6 with 3 minutes
>>>to
>>>>>go vs VT and lost to NU and SB in OT. A coach's job
>>>is
>>>>>to put his team in a position to win Coach Brown
>has
>>>>>done that on many occasions with NO Center or Power
>>>>>Forward. Think of BU without Bell and Butts or VT
>>>>>without Sheftic or Coppenrath?????
>>>>>
>>>>>Coach Brown's center was lost in pre season and his
>>>>>power forward has Plantar Fasciaitis in both feet
>>and
>>>>>hardly plays and when he does he can't run or jump.
>>>>>
>>>>>It's much easier coaching with talent at every
>>>>>position!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>>Sorry -- I meant to say that Bing almost beat GW.
>>>>>>They also lost to Villanova (the game before GW),
>>>but
>>>>>>it wasn't by 4.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Just wanted to second the point made by Dane96
>>>about
>>>>>>>Al Walker. Regardless of what you think of the
>>>guy,
>>>>>>>he's coached a team that was predicted by the
>rest
>>>>of
>>>>>>>the coaches to finish 6th to what is currently
>3rd
>>>>>>>place in the league. He's the only coach in the
>>>>>>>league who's team has significantly exceeded
>>>>>>>pre-season expectations.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Plus, Binghamton has beaten every team in the
>>>league
>>>>>>>except BU at least once, and lost its two games
>>>with
>>>>>>>BU by only five (in overtime AT Boston) and three
>>>>>>>points respectively (after being down by as many
>>as
>>>>>20
>>>>>>>earlier in the game). In other words, they've
>>>>played
>>>>>>>every team in the league competitively all
>season.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Finally, don't forget at the beginning of the
>>>>season,
>>>>>>>they got a great win against Denver in the Iowa
>>>>State
>>>>>>>tourney and nearly upset Villanova at home,
>losing
>>>>by
>>>>>>>4.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>As for the rest of the league's coaches, it's
>hard
>>>>>for
>>>>>>>me to get too excited about coaches who managed
>>>>>simply
>>>>>>>to meet the pre-season expectations, but I'd
>agree
>>>>>>>that the coaches at Boston and Vermont deserve
>>>>>>>consideration for at least living up to those
>>>>>>>expectactions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Finally, I don't know how you put the Albany
>coach
>>>>on
>>>>>>>a top five list. Greanted, he may not have much
>>to
>>>>>>>work with, but other than a win against Stony
>>>Brook,
>>>>>>>their seven wins have hardly been impressive.
>>They
>>>>>>>beat the 5th and 8th (last) place teams in the
>>>>>Patriot
>>>>>>>League, the 9th (out of 12) place team in the
>>>>>>>Northeast Conf., and Dartmouth, which is in
>second
>>>>to
>>>>>>>last place in the Ivy League solely because
>>>Columbia
>>>>>>>is beyond miserable, having suffered through its
>>>>>worst
>>>>>>>losing streak in 44 years. In other words,
>>they've
>>>>>>>managed to beat a bunch of bad teams from
>>>>conferences
>>>>>>>arguably worse than the AE.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>1. Wolff
>>>>>>>>>2. Dr Giannelli
>>>>>>>>>3. Brennan
>>>>>>>>>4. Harrison
>>>>>>>>>5. Brown
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Brennan does not deserve to be in the top 3. We
>>>all
>>>>>>>>know its his assistant who gets the players to
>>>UVM.
>>>>>>He
>>>>>>>>is one of the leagues WORST BENCH COACHES. I
>>>would
>>>>>>go
>>>>>>>>w/:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>WOLF---SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE WAY HE USES HIS
>>DEPTH
>>>>>>>>GIANELLI
>>>>>>>>WALKER----THE MAN HAS GOT A SECOND YEAR PROGRAM
>>TO
>>>>A
>>>>>>>>THIRD PLACE FINISH....w/ no bid for his troops
>to
>>>>>>play
>>>>>>>>for. I hate him...but you cannot argue about
>the
>>>>>way
>>>>>>>>he got his boys to play.
>>>>>>>>HARRISON
>>>>>>>>BROWN---if UA had 2-3 more wins...he would be
>the
>>>>>>>>coach of the year. Has four talented
>>>players...and
>>>>>>>>thats all! i CANT BELIEVE HE COAXED 7 wins out
>>of
>>>>>>>>this squad.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Correction - Urban Barrister -- DOWNTOWN, 09:57:10 02/24/03 Mon

>Patch: You're absolutely right -- a good coach puts
>his team in a position to win. But a GREAT coach
>actually WINS a few of those close games, too, and for
>all the close games Albany may have played during the
>season, the fact is they only managed to win a
>whopping THREE of them in the conference, two of which
>were against New Hampshire. That's the sort of
>performance that gets coaches fired, not voted as
>coach of the year.
>
>I admit, I don't know much about Coach Brown, but I'd
>have to imagine if he's as good a coach as you claim
>he'd be EMBARRASSED to receive votes for coach of the
>year having only won three conference games. Do you
>think at the end of this season he's going to look
>back and think "What a great season! Yeah, it's true
>we were 3 and 13 in the conference, but we kept it
>close a couple of times!" and be happy with that?? I
>don't think so. I think he's going to look at those
>close games and tell his kids that they need to learn
>how to WIN those close games in the future, and that
>keeping it close isn't good enough (unless you're
>playing with horse shoes or hand grenades, as the
>expression goes).
>
>As for Binghamton, I don't need to sit here and
>recount a bunch of "close losses" to make the case for
>Coach Walker. Rather, I can point to the close games
>that he and his team WON as evidence of why he
>deserves to be coach of the year. Bing didn't just
>"keep it close" against Vermont and SBU -- they
>actually managed to BEAT Vermont and SBU. And the
>same is true for Maine AND Hartford AND Northeastern.
>And, for the record, even though they also lost twice
>to BU, they managed to "keep it close" against the top
>dog BOTH times they played them, not just once. (Or
>did you forget about U of A's 28 point loss in
>Boston?)
>
>And while we're talking about losses, what about all
>those Albany losses? If the close games speak so well
>for your coach (and I concede that they do), what do
>the really bad losses say, like the one in Boston? Or
>the 18 and 27 point losses to Binghamton? Or the 12
>and 14 point losses to Hartford? Hell, if losing
>badly qualifies you for coach of the year, the New
>Hampshire coach ought to be a lock for it this season!
>
>
>Seems to me you're the one who didn't follow the AE
>this season. At least the whole season. Every game
>counts in the standings, and I have to think every
>game is going to count when the rest of the coaches
>sit down and choose their coach of the year -- not
>just the games where your team managed to "keep it
>close".
>

The question was who are the "top five coaches".......how did you come up with voting for "coach of the year"??? There is a big difference between the two that obviously escapes you. Coach Brown was put in a tough position which only true followers of the AE would understand. This is not really "his" team yet as he has only one recruiting class in place (which includes arguablly the ROY in Jamar Wilson and an AE 1st Team All Rookie Player in Levy Levine). A couple of similar recruiting master pieces and he will show you what he can do in this league once he has "his" team in place.

>>Urban Cowboy have you followed the AE this season - UA
>>lost to Top Dog BU by 3, were down 6 with 3 minutes to
>>go vs VT and lost to NU and SB in OT. A coach's job is
>>to put his team in a position to win Coach Brown has
>>done that on many occasions with NO Center or Power
>>Forward. Think of BU without Bell and Butts or VT
>>without Sheftic or Coppenrath?????
>>
>>Coach Brown's center was lost in pre season and his
>>power forward has Plantar Fasciaitis in both feet and
>>hardly plays and when he does he can't run or jump.
>>
>>It's much easier coaching with talent at every
>>position!!!
>>
>>>Sorry -- I meant to say that Bing almost beat GW.
>>>They also lost to Villanova (the game before GW), but
>>>it wasn't by 4.
>>>
>>>>Just wanted to second the point made by Dane96 about
>>>>Al Walker. Regardless of what you think of the guy,
>>>>he's coached a team that was predicted by the rest
>of
>>>>the coaches to finish 6th to what is currently 3rd
>>>>place in the league. He's the only coach in the
>>>>league who's team has significantly exceeded
>>>>pre-season expectations.
>>>>
>>>>Plus, Binghamton has beaten every team in the league
>>>>except BU at least once, and lost its two games with
>>>>BU by only five (in overtime AT Boston) and three
>>>>points respectively (after being down by as many as
>>20
>>>>earlier in the game). In other words, they've
>played
>>>>every team in the league competitively all season.
>>>>
>>>>Finally, don't forget at the beginning of the
>season,
>>>>they got a great win against Denver in the Iowa
>State
>>>>tourney and nearly upset Villanova at home, losing
>by
>>>>4.
>>>>
>>>>As for the rest of the league's coaches, it's hard
>>for
>>>>me to get too excited about coaches who managed
>>simply
>>>>to meet the pre-season expectations, but I'd agree
>>>>that the coaches at Boston and Vermont deserve
>>>>consideration for at least living up to those
>>>>expectactions.
>>>>
>>>>Finally, I don't know how you put the Albany coach
>on
>>>>a top five list. Greanted, he may not have much to
>>>>work with, but other than a win against Stony Brook,
>>>>their seven wins have hardly been impressive. They
>>>>beat the 5th and 8th (last) place teams in the
>>Patriot
>>>>League, the 9th (out of 12) place team in the
>>>>Northeast Conf., and Dartmouth, which is in second
>to
>>>>last place in the Ivy League solely because Columbia
>>>>is beyond miserable, having suffered through its
>>worst
>>>>losing streak in 44 years. In other words, they've
>>>>managed to beat a bunch of bad teams from
>conferences
>>>>arguably worse than the AE.
>>>>
>>>>>>1. Wolff
>>>>>>2. Dr Giannelli
>>>>>>3. Brennan
>>>>>>4. Harrison
>>>>>>5. Brown
>>>>>
>>>>>Brennan does not deserve to be in the top 3. We all
>>>>>know its his assistant who gets the players to UVM.
>>>He
>>>>>is one of the leagues WORST BENCH COACHES. I would
>>>go
>>>>>w/:
>>>>>
>>>>>WOLF---SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE WAY HE USES HIS DEPTH
>>>>>GIANELLI
>>>>>WALKER----THE MAN HAS GOT A SECOND YEAR PROGRAM TO
>A
>>>>>THIRD PLACE FINISH....w/ no bid for his troops to
>>>play
>>>>>for. I hate him...but you cannot argue about the
>>way
>>>>>he got his boys to play.
>>>>>HARRISON
>>>>>BROWN---if UA had 2-3 more wins...he would be the
>>>>>coach of the year. Has four talented players...and
>>>>>thats all! i CANT BELIEVE HE COAXED 7 wins out of
>>>>>this squad.

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[> Re: Rate the Top 5 Coaches in AE -- Coach Wells, 10:19:19 02/24/03 Mon

I'd go with

1. Wolff - Didn't think he could engineer so many road wins this year. Have to give him a lot of credit for getting team focused on the road. Won tons of close games......

2. Walker - Did a magnificant job with his team this year beating many of the top AE programs and exceeding most prognosticators expectations.

3. Brown - Eventhough the record doesn't show it, his young team played well this year. They play hard and Brown gets the most out of his undersized players.

4. Giannelli - Excellent basketball mind whose team in my opinion overachieved this year.

5. Brennan - Not a popular choice with the fans on this board but give him credit for a solid projected 2nd place finish without his MVP and leader Sorrentine.

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[> [> Re: Rate the Top 5 Coaches in AE -- buhoops, 16:59:34 02/24/03 Mon

>I'd go with
>
>1. Wolff - Didn't think he could engineer so many road
>wins this year. Have to give him a lot of credit for
>getting team focused on the road. Won tons of close
>games......
>
>2. Walker - Did a magnificant job with his team this
>year beating many of the top AE programs and exceeding
>most prognosticators expectations.
>
>3. Brown - Eventhough the record doesn't show it, his
>young team played well this year. They play hard and
>Brown gets the most out of his undersized players.
>
>4. Giannelli - Excellent basketball mind whose team in
>my opinion overachieved this year.
>
>5. Brennan - Not a popular choice with the fans on
>this board but give him credit for a solid projected
>2nd place finish without his MVP and leader Sorrentine.

Coach Wells, I agree with you except for your picking Brennan. Truth is he's the coach of that team in name only.
The real "coach" is his assistant, Jesse Agel, who is the main recruiter, runs the practices, and does the game coaching. Brennan is really more like a general manager who handles the external stuff. Actually, I would put Agel in the top 5 coaches in the league.

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[> [> [> Re: Rate the Top 5 Coaches in AE -- Coach Wells, 19:11:29 02/24/03 Mon

buhoops, who has the assistant that look like a young Bob Brown???? Is that Agel?????

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