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Date Posted: 11:46
Author: Waqidi - 6 Jun 2001
Subject: Re: Burbank, Microfiche and Statistical Blunders
In reply to: Mike Drake - 5 Jun 2001 's message, "Re: Burbank, Microfiche and Statistical Blunders" on 11:46


As someone with a reasonable background in science and mathematics and who took a graduate level course in astrophysics, I must disagree with your statement that there would be no subtle pertubation of the sun from a dark matter sun that is in a cyclical orbit, where its distance changes from the sun over a period of 24,000 years. I cannot say that anyone knows of such a phenomena as no one has seen dark matter. However, it is not beyond the relm of possibilities. For example, the 24000 year cylce could itself be from a binary where both are dark matter suns. However, I am not prepared to provide you with equations concerning this farout idea. You cannot ask an astrophysicist to calculate the force exerted by a dark matter object. As far as I am aware the theory of dark matter has yet to be completed or even validated. Therefore, the newtonian equation assumpions are not likely to be valid. A pertabation of the sun's position relative to a "moving absolute reference point" in space (not including other movements such as the rotation around the galactic center) is known to occur from the gravitional effects of the planets. In truth all matter interacts. Indeed some claim that gravitational waves travel greater than the speed of light. Therefore, even a remote star many light years away will have a subtle effect on the position of the sun. A binary star system will a subtle cyclical effect on the sun. I hope this clarifies what I am getting at. There does not have to a major gravitional effect to have a signicance from an astrological standpoint. Consider the gravitational effect of the outer planets on the sun. It is quite small yet astrologers consider the position of planets in their "calculations."

The quote is from Edison. The "Judge" who is supposedly a friend of Burbank and who gives the memorial service speech states that Edison's view on spiritual matters are very similar to Edison. I concluded from this that Burbank like Edison believed in a supreme intelligence in the universe. Further, the Judge states that Burbank was in "awe" of this unseen force. Hence my conclusion that Burbank was not an athiest as you have claimed.

With regard to the issue of Burbank's view on reincarnation, the immortality of humans and a belief in a supreme intelligence, we still have scanty evidence. The evidence is contradictory. It is not circular reasoning to say that Yogananda's account in his writings are just as valid (if not more valid IMO) as the account given in the Infidel site, which does not supply any evidence that the newspaper article is real. At least there is some evidence provided in Yogananda's book that he in fact knew Burbank. Note the photograph of the letter from Burbank to Yogananda. Also, the detail and quantity of the information provided by Yogananda on his friend is compelling. An entire chapter of a book is given to describe the relationship. If Yogananda was describing the color of the socks his friend was wearing a decade prior to writing this chapter I would have to agree that his memory would have to be of concern. However, we are not talking of the color of Burbank's socks but a fundamental aspect of what Burbank's modus operandi and belief system were. A friend would remember such things for life.

It is interesting, however, that the sentence concerning reincarnation was removed from latter editions of the "A of Y". This may have some bearing on our discussion or it may not.

A microfiche of the article would elevate it above the status of hearsay evidence. When you have this evidence and can show it to the group we should discuss this again.


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