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Date Posted: 08:07
Author: Bill - 11 Aug 2001
Subject: Re: The "Science of Kriya Yoga" Annotated
In reply to:
Eponymous - 9 Aug 2001
's message, "The "Science of Kriya Yoga" Annotated" on 07:59
Hi Mike Drake er Eponymous, which, by the way, I had to "research" the definition in the dictionary; which yielded the following curious definition: Eponymous--Of, pertaining to, or constituting an eponym. As that didn't really shed any light on this strange moniker I naturally went further into my scientific search for the reality of eponym. Eponym: A person (that would be you wouldn't it Mike?) whose name is or is thought to be the source of the name of something. ?????
Can I ask you a question? What is your motivation? Is it to engage in debate? Or is it to condemn, as you seem to have a particular bias against Parmahansa Yogananda? Or maybe it's possibly to gain converts to your brand of rationalism, and thereby save us gullible, weakminded one's from the evil men of the east who've come to charm our snakes and steal our minds?
"In a non-traditional culture such as ours, dominated by technology, we value information far more than we do wisdom. But there is a difference between the two. Information involves the acquisition, organization, and dissemination of facts; a storing-up of physical data. But wisdom involves another equally crucial function: the emptying and quieting of the mind, the applications of the heart, and the alchemy of reason and feeling. In the wisdom mode, we're not processing information, analytically or sequentially. We're standing back and viewing the whole, discerning what matters and what does not, weighing the meaning and depth of things. This quality of wisdom is rare in our culture. More often, we have knowledgeable people who pretend to be wise, but who, unfortunately, have not, cultivated the quality of mind from which wisdom truly arises."
"Although we are a religious nation, we are not, on close examination, an essentially spiritual one. While it is true that the Judeo-Christian values of charity, hard work, community, and so do inform the shape and self-image of our culture, at root we are a secular society whose deepest leanings are toward the school of thought known as philosophical materialism. This label does not refer to our love affair with possessions and money; rather, philosophical materialism is the idea that reality is limited to what we perceive through our senses. If something cannot be seen, smelled, tasted, heard, or touched with our physical bodies, or measured by experimental means in a laboratory, materialism posits that it does not exist except as a creation of the mind. Although non-material (extrasensory) phenomena are allowed to exist in the sphere of religion, our view of "everday" reality is mostly divorced from the realm of spirit. We use science as our bottom line, our gauge for determining what is real and what is not. Though it is common knowledge in spiritual cultures (**such as the one Yogananda hails from) that the mind cannot measure phenomena that exist beyond the mind, our culture tends to disregard the possibility that there is any reality beyond our senses."
"There's a lot that we can't see that we never would have believed a couple of centuries ago: atoms, quarks, jet propulsion, whole galaxies, and we couldn't have dreamed of the microscopes and telescopes we now have for observing all these things. The Sufi Mulas Nasrudin reminds us that looking for reality only through the lens of science is like a drunkard losing his keys in the dark and only looking around the lamppost because that's where he can see..."
Ram Dass (Dr. Richard Alpert)
Embracing Aging, Changing, and Dying
Copyright 2000, Riverhead Books
"Ram Dass, who in the 1960's left his teaching position with Harvard to blaze a new spiritual trail, shaped the awakening consciousness of a generation with his landmark two-million-copy bestseller BE HERE NOW. A cofounder of the Hanuman and Seva foundations, he works with environmental organizations, the socially conscious business community, and the dying. He lectures around the country and lives in northern California."
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