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Subject: I understand the need to move on, but


Author:
Jan
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Date Posted: Tuesday, July 15, 10:00:07am
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At the same time, I think the criticism being leveled at PageantCritic is justified.

PC, the point that I think everyone is trying to be made is that not because you and Trini77 help keep the board going (your choice, and this does not mean you own the board, or are the only ones allowed to express an opinion), does it mean that it is right to FALSELY heap praise on a delegate when you know that your feelings are the exact opposite.

If you felt Anya was not the right fit for Miss Universe, it would have gone so much more smoothly if you'd simply refrained from making any negative comments, but also refrained from making statements such as "Anya is perfect.. do not change anyting about her styling etc".

You MUST understand the difference between the two.

You've dug your own hole in the sense that you feel you are justified in saying what you want after the fact, because you made only positive and overly glowing comments before. That's not the way it works. It is almost like a case of sour grapes. The grapes look so delicious and appealing before, yet when you realise you cannot attain them, you steups and say you never wanted them anyway.

If Anya had actually been called into the top 15, or even won the crown (which according to what you have expressed after the fact was a sheer impossibility) would you have been as harsh? Would you have come on here and made reference to the "Anya disaster"? To how horrible she performed in the presentation show? Would you have stated that the judges must be off their rockers to crown a girl who you were certain was the wrong girl for the job?

So please... give us all a break. Those who post and those who read...Your hypocrisy is compounded by statements like "I have never seen you post here before". Had that poster been posting support for you or praise for Anya, you would not have thought twice about whether they'd posted before.

Read some of your messages, and if you're a person with integrity, you will realise what everyone is trying to tell you. Do not be false with your praise/adoration, and then turn around and say "I knew that all along". Just say nothing next time, or keep your comments just general and positive. People would have respected you so much more had you been simply saying things like "Good luck Anya, you have our support" which are general statements, rather than things like "Anya looked perfect, and she will bring the crown home for us".

Whether you respond (or anyone for that matter) to this or not, is not my concern.

It needed to be said.

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[> Subject: Correction...


Author:
Trini77
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Date Posted: Tuesday, July 15, 10:06:57am
Author Host/IP: cpe-66-65-16-174.nyc.res.rr.com/66.65.16.174

...John, the forum administrator is the one who keeps the forum going. He is the one who manages the entire forum. We all are on here just as guests although for me I feel like this is where the MT&T family get together since I have been on here for so many years.

A big thank you to John for affording us this medium to support our reps.

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[> Subject: OK....


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PageantCritic
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Date Posted: Tuesday, July 15, 01:01:32pm
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I totally understand what you are saying and maybe I should of just said what I felt concerning Anya and my opnion of her. But, as I have said so many times in my previous posts and Adrian did too. Is that alot of the girls and or their families visits the forum. I did not want to contribute at the time to any critical remarks or comments that may be negative toward Anya that would of caused her to do even worse during the competition. I tried to support her to the very end. praising her every move and picture etc. along with PE&A. My intentions was to try and look beyond the fact that she was not the best and just focus on the positives in her and the pageant company at the time. I agree with you that my choices of words could of been different. I could of contuined with the praises after she didnt place. But, no one speaks out about the wrong that PE&A did by chosing Anya for MU. I chose to voice my displease with them because I thought they were begining to divert from where they originally started.

I still stand by every comment I made and I believe it needed to be said and not held back anymore. I did not see anything wrong with fully supporting her while the competition was going on. I waited until it was all over to voice my opinion about her and her faults. none of us could of changed the fact who PE&A chose after she won. So, we had no choice but to support her in every way possible. I was truly hoping for the best for her. But, I knew otherwise.

And I only made the statement that I have never seen you posts here before because of the stated fact that the poster was saying. I have never contributed in a significant way(not the exact words), which in untrue. I have been nothing but very supportive to all the MT&T in recent times especially since last Miss World started. There have only been a few people owho have really contributed on this forum apart from me and Trini77(with the exception of john).

And Jan, before you think about using metaphors, try getting one that makes sense. WE will see who the true fans of MT&T's are soon. When all of you fly by night, fans leave its just us regulars who are here all the time lending our support when needed.

So, who ever wants to be angry at my posts then feel free to do so. I stand by my every word. And yes Jan I do feel justified!

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[> Subject: THANK YOU JAN!


Author:
Pgwhizz
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Date Posted: Tuesday, July 15, 01:32:25pm
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Thank you JAN...I can't believe all these unnecessary/ridiculous posts...we just 'lost' and this is what we do???

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[> Subject: 2 cents


Author:
smurfgyrl
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Date Posted: Friday, July 18, 05:52:26am
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I think that yes the girls and their families may visit the site, so nasty comments that attack them are just plain wrong. but there is also nothing wrong with constructive criticism. When a girl, or should i say young lady signs up for this, she MUST take all of this into account. She is opening herself up to criticism...which sucks, but she MUST face this fact. She must learn to take it all in, the good...and the bad. i remember an interview with arlene peterkin, saying something along those lines- which is why she was hesitant to step up in the first place. so being honest, and voicing your opinion on something is not a bad thing. I remember when I said i hated an outfit Anya wore, (insert name here) was on it. But i just wont say I LOVE everything our girls wear or do, because Im trini. I want our girls to win, but im also gonna keep it real..

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