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Subject: Re: White Peafowl....harder to raise?


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Bigdog
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Date Posted: 05:41:08 08/15/06 Tue
In reply to: brenTx 's message, "White Peafowl....harder to raise?" on 16:23:55 07/27/06 Thu

I have probably had better luck raising whites than any orther color. I have had more problems getting blues (of all colors) to hatch than any of the other colors i have

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[> Subject: Re: White Peafowl....harder to raise?


Author:
Kevin
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Date Posted: 21:48:08 08/15/06 Tue

I agree with the comments they aren't any more difficult to raise/keep. I have heard comments from others claiming they are weaker or more fragile though. I feed all of my chicks and the birds the same and they all do equally well plus the whites did well irregardless of how they were raised- various brooder setups, raised by chickens or by peahens. The only problem I can think of is related to breeding, some peafowl apparently reject whites or consider them less desirable mating partners. Three of my cocks do not like whites, two will tolerate and breed with them but otherwise they will give them a harsh peck if a white hen gets too close.. they are perfect gentlemen with any other colored hens. However the eggs from the white hens with those two are perfectly fertile.. go figure. The third one actually will try to kill anything solid white. It's like he sees them as the enemy or something.. suspect they fail to realize the white birds are normal peafowl.. like some wild animals reject their albino members of the same species. I wonder if the infertility with the other hens is they just don't like the white male.. because he's white. That can sound odd as they are whites but I have known of white cocks that absolutely refused to breed with whites but bred blue hens with no problems.. apparently they don't realize that they themselves are "white".. I see the same behavior with peachicks, if there was a group of colored with just one white peachick and I eventually add another white, the coloreds take no notice of the new white but the "old" white can act all spooked out or extremely interested in the new white chick as if they never saw such a thing before.

The mention of inbreeding is probably a very good suggestion. Several people wanting white peafowl from me have specificially asked if they were from "long lines of pure white peafowl" or something along those lines.. apparently there is some belief that white peafowl must be bred only to whites for several generations in order to have peafowl that will throw ONLY "pure white" peafowl. Explaining white was simply a recessive gene and that any white peafowl bred to any other white peafowl, even if their parents were "colored", would produce only whites did not go over too well for some.. Anyways the point of this, perhaps some people do have some trouble from severely restricting their white genepool.. so the perceived weakness is due to inbreeding not the color.
[> [> Subject: Re: OBSERVATIONS


Author:
D C T
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Date Posted: 07:50:48 08/16/06 Wed

Kevin,

Most of your observations agree with my own.
Except for the strange fact that D'white Peahen laid those
long skinny eggs as a two year old while her green sisters
laid normal eggs. I wonder what will happen in D'white
Peahen's future. She and one of her green sisters are still
in Everest's pen. All is reasonbly harmonious there so
there are no plans for changing that. There was only one
live offspring from each of those two peahens in the 2006
season, both of them white. The green sister has a white
wing flash so obviously carries a white allele. I hope
that the white peachicks will have Everest's yellow face
and compact erect crest
[> [> [> Subject: Re: OBSERVATIONS


Author:
Kevin
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Date Posted: 11:46:10 08/16/06 Wed

Sure hope you get some babies looking like him too. He is a very nice looking guy. That's good he accepts whites very well.

The egg is probably a concidence. I have an Imperator green hen that lays longish and pretty narrow eggs. They hatch out allright despite the strange looking eggs and the chicks are growing great. I'm curious as to what sort of eggs they will lay. She was paired with a dark pied spalding cock, several of their chicks have white on their flights and also some have a long thin white spot on their chins/necks. Those will be kept for pied and white spalding projects.
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Author:
D C T
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Date Posted: 19:40:32 08/16/06 Wed

>Sure hope you get some babies looking like him too. He
>is a very nice looking guy. That's good he accepts
>whites very well.
>=================
Actually I was VERY concerned about the safety of my first
and only white female. After all Everest's father is
Neverland the Insane who mated only once accidentally while
trying to kill Malpo. So Neverland is an a back pen with
just a peacock who is almost as bad as he is and Malpo
went to be with the two "Lost Boys" but this season one of
those had to move when the peace between the brothers
suddenly ended.
When Everest was two years old he and his green cousin
produced two beautiful black shoulder spalding peahens.
The next year the green cousin died, her replacement
attacked Everest so that I removed her and he had no
offspring that year. I kept carrying D'white Peahen by his
pen so that he could look at her and she could see him.
Everest did look friendly but I was cautious about my
under aged white pea pullet and moved her and her green
sister into Everest's pen only as the 2006 breeding season
was about to begin. The two offspring produced brings
Everest's total to four. This breeding season is over for
them and the train is molting. In fact the only complete
train on my property is on a 17 year old India blue
peacock....that is unless you count the male plumage on
16 year old Peahen #13.



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