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Date Posted: 11:23:41 03/26/09 Thu
Author: Utopian
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Subject: Re: In Terms of GDP 2
In reply to: rmwstanford 's message, "Re: In Terms of GDP 2" on 06:15:35 03/24/09 Tue

Yes, you are right. Anyway, I think it is not easy to compare countries and I guess different countries will calculate their size of economy in different ways. What is important is that the size of economy of China is comparable to Japan.

>Herodotus statement about China being the number three
>economy was, I am guessing, based off GDP at exchange
>rates, in which case China is the number 3 country.
>Your using GDP based of purchasing power parity(PPP).
>While PPP is a very use full tool for comparing
>countries in a lot of ways, particular levels of
>personal income, it does have some problems and PPP
>does not always hold very well. For example it holds
>better comparing countries of the same development
>levels.

Without the recent economic crisis, I guess this will be true. But now I believe China will pass up the USA in my lifetime.

Most of the estimate made by economist that I
>seen have China passing up the United States in a
>range of 30-40 years. Which is probably a fairly
>realistic range, particular since it unlikely that
>China GDP will continue to grow at 6-8 in real terms,
>over the long run now country's economy grows that
>fast in real terms.


I have once read a book by a French historian who studied ancient economics. According to the book, the economy of the Ancient Han Dynasty of China was even greater than that of the Roman Empire.

>Well it is a relatively new thing, China's economy has
>only really started to grow since they liberalized and
>introduced a market economy to large portions of their
>economy. During the period when the economy was
>central planned, ie closer to true communism, they had
>poor economic growth. The private companies are the
>one that driving China economic growth. The state
>industries are largely a burden and in some ways cause
>problems that could harm the large economy latter on.
>They have had a large number of loans floated to them
>that they are unlikely to pay back.
>


China is clearly leading the world in many pure sciences such as mathematics and theoretical physics, something which have little applications and which you may not be well aware of unless you read journals of these fields regularly. The Indians do better in information science and technology, something which affects us directly. The Japanese are still leading the world in advanced electronics and hi-tech products but the Koreans are challenging them now by selling similar but cheaper products. Germany was once a leader in the physical sciences, but that was before the 2nd WW. After that many of their great scientists fled to the USA and now the Germans seem to do better in the social sciences/arts, as are the French and Italians.

The Americans are still the supreme master in most areas of the applied sciences such as medical and space technologies. But even in the latter, the Chinese are fast catching up with the States.

>China has certainly moved forward, but they are very
>few areas that they lead the world. Most of China
>growth has been catch up growth. It relatively rare
>that you see many new high tech products come out
>there. Most of that still comes out of the US or Japan.

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  • Re: In Terms of GDP 2 -- Utopian, 11:50:13 03/26/09 Thu
  • Re: In Terms of GDP 2 -- Jack, 09:53:36 04/27/09 Mon
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