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Date Posted: 01:16:44 02/16/07 Fri
Author: Stephen Luscombee
Author Host/IP: NoHost / 82.152.198.157
Subject: Re: Britain Versus America
In reply to: Martin 's message, "Re: Britain Versus America" on 23:34:47 02/15/07 Thu

>>>>What would we be fighting over?
>>>>It wouldn't have happened.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Let us just say the WW2 never happenned. And the
>>>>>battle was instead war between UK and US in 1945
>who
>>>>>wins. Remember the US is now a superpower that
>>>>>time.The war of independence style war was held in
>>>the
>>>>>20th century. Please don't use this question to
>spit
>>>>>anti-American venom, for once!
>>>
>>>A better way of putting the question would be, at
>what
>>>point did the US become a more powerful nation than
>>>the UK?
>>>
>>>I would say sometime between the wars.
>>
>>I would agree but would be more specific and would
>>date it to the Washington Naval Conferences. This
>>categorically equalised the American and British
>>fleets in the famous 5:5:3 ratios. This meant that the
>>Royal Navy was no longer unchallenged on the high
>seas.
>>
>>These conferences coincidentally also detached Britain
>>from its alliance from Japan and so helped spin the
>>Japanese into the Axis orbit for World War Two. Making
>>Pearl Harbour something of an own goal!
>
>Those ratios were worked out on tonnage too, and
>whilst the Royal Navy was mostly WWI ships soldiering
>(should that be sailoring?) on past their sell-by date
>the US Navy was more modern.

And of course the Japanese came out of it best of all. Their 3 ratio was concentrated in the Pacific Ocean, The Americans 5 ratio was divided between the Atlantic and Pacific whilst the aging British 5 ratio was scattered over the entire globe.

I really do think that the Washington Conferences were a pivotal turning point in Imperial History - and one that is frequently overlooked - if someone were heading off to do a dissertation or a doctorate on Imperial History, this would a highly profitable avenue to research and document

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