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Date Posted: 08:42:03 01/15/08 Tue
Author: Anthony
Author Host/IP: host81-141-160-14.wlms-broadband.com / 81.141.160.14
Subject: Re: The rise and rise of the EU
In reply to: Bill Johnson 's message, "Re: The rise and rise of the EU" on 09:02:38 01/09/08 Wed

>I think the EU does have the capacity to become a
>'superpower'.
>
The EU will not become a super power despite what the euro crats wish for, countries such as france are in it for what they can get out of it. Nationalism has not gone away. In fact this whole rotten project is being led by a small political elite forcing it onto the vast majority.

>Two things depend on this:
>Integration and Demographics.
>
>European peoples still have an enmity towards each
>others nations (France / Germany) and sometimes within
>their own nation (Spain / ETA, Basque). In this
>regard the EU has been a success, compared with the
>horrors of World War 2. Perhaps it has been this
>memory that had galvanised the formation of more
>United Europe so the question of what will replace
>this memory will have to be addressed at some point -
>later more so than sooner as we remember this Irish
>famine (1845 - 1849) but not say the 30 years war
>(1618 - 1648). The integration of non Europeans is
>also vital, Europe like the USA of the 19th century
>needs to be a welcoming place and attract a more
>diverse group of people - not only Arabs and Africans
>but also people from the Americas, China and India...
>If the EU can do this then the national identities
>will be retained along with the demographic problem
>answered. For Europeans it has usually been one or
>the other - today they need to understand there is
>enough space for everyone to exist and flourish.
>
It has been NATO That has kept the peace in western europe since 1949, it seems that this has been forgotten conveniently so the europhiliacs can retrospectively invent reasons to justify their continual assualts on democracy, in their empire building, pubic opinion must not be allowed to get in the way.

>On a side note the Gaels in North West Scotland
>survived 300 years of rule and kept their own identity
>intact in the face of much larger groupings of people
>and they see themselves today as being able to survive
>within the EU for sometime to come. I do not see the
>Anglicans or non conformists in the UK being written
>from history because of the EU! Unless you read and

>believe the British tabloids!!
>
Yesterday i read in the paper that there is only one British fishing vessel left in great yarmouth a hundred years ago there was over a thousand, Britain,s fishing fleet has been destroyed by it's own treacherous governments (tory/labour makes no difference) implementing the common fisheries policy laid down by Brussels.

>Perhaps the French language will stand a chance in the
>EU as well ;)
as well as their agriculture subsidized massively by Britain

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