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Date Posted: 23:59:25 02/16/07 Fri
Author: Martin
Author Host/IP: user-54467c9b.lns4-c12.dsl.pol.co.uk / 84.70.124.155
Subject: Re: Britain Versus America
In reply to: Stephen Luscombee 's message, "Re: Britain Versus America" on 01:16:44 02/16/07 Fri

>>>>>What would we be fighting over?
>>>>>It wouldn't have happened.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Let us just say the WW2 never happenned. And the
>>>>>>battle was instead war between UK and US in 1945
>>who
>>>>>>wins. Remember the US is now a superpower that
>>>>>>time.The war of independence style war was held in
>>>>the
>>>>>>20th century. Please don't use this question to
>>spit
>>>>>>anti-American venom, for once!
>>>>
>>>>A better way of putting the question would be, at
>>what
>>>>point did the US become a more powerful nation than
>>>>the UK?
>>>>
>>>>I would say sometime between the wars.
>>>
>>>I would agree but would be more specific and would
>>>date it to the Washington Naval Conferences. This
>>>categorically equalised the American and British
>>>fleets in the famous 5:5:3 ratios. This meant that
>the
>>>Royal Navy was no longer unchallenged on the high
>>seas.
>>>
>>>These conferences coincidentally also detached
>Britain
>>>from its alliance from Japan and so helped spin the
>>>Japanese into the Axis orbit for World War Two.
>Making
>>>Pearl Harbour something of an own goal!
>>
>>Those ratios were worked out on tonnage too, and
>>whilst the Royal Navy was mostly WWI ships soldiering
>>(should that be sailoring?) on past their sell-by date
>>the US Navy was more modern.
>
>And of course the Japanese came out of it best of all.
>Their 3 ratio was concentrated in the Pacific Ocean,
>The Americans 5 ratio was divided between the Atlantic
>and Pacific whilst the aging British 5 ratio was
>scattered over the entire globe.
>
>I really do think that the Washington Conferences were
>a pivotal turning point in Imperial History - and one
>that is frequently overlooked - if someone were
>heading off to do a dissertation or a doctorate on
>Imperial History, this would a highly profitable
>avenue to research and document

I suppose though that with farnce and the US as pretty much guaranteed allies the naval situation looked fairly secure though after the treaty. They couldn't have predicted that France would capitulate and most of the US Navy would end up on the bottom of Pearl Harbour.

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  • Re: Britain Versus America -- Ken Robinson, 20:04:26 02/18/07 Sun
  • Re: Britain Versus America -- jantra, 13:36:49 03/18/07 Sun
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