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Date Posted: 13:01:04 09/12/07 Wed
Author: anthony
Author Host/IP: webcacheh10a.cache.pol.co.uk / 195.92.67.74
Subject: Re: Should Scotland be independent
In reply to: Jack 's message, "Re: Should Scotland be independent" on 08:52:58 09/11/07 Tue

>no because the isle of wight is english, scotland and
>wales arnt english, and we have a national identity so
>it was bloody stupid and bigotted of you to even class
>scotland and wales on the same level as a small island
>which is apart of england of which the inhabitants are
>english. why cant you understand why they are thinking
>about it? what cant the population of a country
>consider governing themselves now?
>
i dont remenber hearing that scotland or wales national identity was ever under threat while being part of the uk


>Scotland should be independant because there 1 of the
>poorest oil producing countries in the world the
>number of people in poverty could be compared to
>mexico England is worth £1.9 Trillion and Scotland is
>worth a mere £172 Billion because most of the wealth
>is taken by the English. During the British Empire the
>Scots were sent and the forefront of defensive along
>with the welsh, just look at the film zulu, and in
>braveheart when the english send the irish to fight to
>save english blood. Another reason is that Great
>Britain was formed to counter the massive french and
>spanish empires, which worked now that empire is over
>the need for a united kingdom is redunent.
>
you are full of this chip on the shoulder victim status,
the reason why the english economy is worth more is because it has a bigger populace = more taxes which is going to provide free care for the elderly in scotland & free university education no loans, more money spent per head in scotland than england. better funded hospitals & yet you tell us scotland is on a par with mexico maybe your silly joke parliament should not waste so much of englands hard earned taxes.

>however maybe scotland shouldnt be independant,
>because she would lose her role in world affairs how
>would the british army be broken up, would the
>remaining parts of the UK take the military completly?
>this would leave scotland defensless. Scotland is a
>small country what system would work in creating a
>stable economy a scandenavian system? or a tax haven
>for buisness? Its alot to jump into.
>
scotland has played a world role through the westminster parliament providing many leading parliamentarians statesmen, prime minister, Blair & brown the latest disgusting export.

>maybe the UK should first be federated so that the
>government of scotland can be 100% garuenteed and
>cannot be revoked by westminister. allowing the
>government to take slow steps in controlling its
>economy and be allocated certain amounts of military
>control. If this is 100% Sucessful and the people of
>scotland still want to be a nation then sure noone
>should say no, but jumping in the deep end sure it
>could work but we wouldnt be giving ourselfs the best
>possible chance not only is there the defensive and
>economic issue but then theres the buecracy of who
>gets what embassies if any will we still be in the EU
>do we get rid of the queen if yes what form of
>government do we adopt?
>
scotlands only place in the world is with england out side the wretched european union

>and if anyone says we chould preserve the UK, its
>already breaking up Ireland left the UK, just because
>the republic of ireland isnt on the same island as
>Great Britain,it didnt make it anyless part of the UK
>before 1922, so why not whats wrong with the idea of a
>divided kingdom?
>
nobody knows if ireland leaving the union was by the will of the majority of irish men once the british left they tore themselves apart in a civil war. Even southern ireland stays afloat with englands taxes via the european union
>if anybody supports a free scotland search some stuff
>on youtube its quite insightful, or look for some
>articles on google aswell and hear some other peoples
>views, even some english who actually do understand
>and dont just dismiss independence as some ridiculous
>idea. So yeah if scotland wants independence it should
>but it should weigh up pros and cons and if she should
>take a slow transition to full blown independence
>maybe from federation to confederation, its a
>sensitive issue, but ulitmatly if they want it they
>should take it.
you are falling into the trap of divide and rule by the european empire which will have no respect for scottish law.

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