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Date Posted: Sunday, December 23, 06:14:39pm
Author: Castillo.
Subject: St. Peter's history.

The topics are getting a little too heavy for me. Can we digress back to happier times?
What were the starting fives for the SPC NCAA Tournament teams in 1991 and 1995?
Some names I remember are Jasper Walker, Tony Andrews, Marvin Andrews, Moe Segar, Luis Arrosa (?), Mike Frensley.
Can anyone match the years with the names?

By the way St. Peter's athletics archives stink; there aren't any. Some colleges go back to the late 1800's with scores, players, statistics, etc. We have nothing.

(PS: Everybody talks about giving players time to develop. I remember a SPC power forward from the 1980s who was a bench warmer his first three years, but became, I believe, a first team All-MAAC player in his senior year : Anthony Green. He was about 6'8" 240 lbs. and really cleaned the boards. Anybody remember him?)

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[> Re: St. Peter's history. -- Gama, Sunday, December 23, 06:41:55pm [1]

Along those same lines I was trying to remember some of SPC's all-time scoring leaders (more tahn 1,000 career points): here are some names (in no particular order): Martiniuk, Rinaldi, O'Dea, Hayes, Gibbs (wonder if he's related to the brothers at Seton Hall Prep), Slappy (current coach at Passaic High?), Brown, Fazio, Bellinger, Hunter, Webster, Best, Allen, Clark, and two players whose names escape me: a big Polish kid from Linden who actually did some color commentary on TV, and a small fellow from Lockport NY in the mid-1980s.

Anyone else belong on the list?

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[> [> Re: St. Peter's history. -- Pete Scerbo '85, Sunday, December 23, 07:29:29pm [1]

The unnamed players in gama's post are John Krotulis and Willie Haynes.
Merry Christmas to all. See you on Friday for a "W" against Fairfield.

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[> Re: St. Peter's history. -- SPC Fan, Sunday, December 23, 07:25:39pm [1]

Starting five in 1991
Jasper Walker 5-10 pg SR
Antoine Allen 6-0 2G FR
Marvin Andrews6-4 WF SR
Tony Walker 6-7 PF SR
John Connell 6-9 C SR
Starting fiive in 1995
Mike Frensley 5-10 PG JR
Randy Holmes 6-2 2g JR
Moe Segar 6-5 SF JR
Lou Arrosa 6-9 PF JR
Bas DeVoogd 7-2 C JR

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[> [> Re: St. Peter's history. -- SPC Fan, Sunday, December 23, 07:37:45pm [1]

As an aside regarding the 95 team,Jerome Davis played more minutes generally than De Voogd but he usually started and was the starter in the U Mass game..
Also Sherrod Jones got major minutes at the center spot.

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[> [> [> Re: St. Peter's history. -- Tim Camp, Wednesday, December 26, 06:23:01pm [1]

An aside regarding the '91 team--there were multiple centers. John Connell usually started, but Kenny Mack and Scott Nesbitt also saw significant minutes until he became ineligible at mid-season.

Ted did an exceptional job mixing and matching at center. Connell was about 6-9, but he was more of a finesse player. Mack was a big, strong 6-11. And Nesbitt was about 6-7 and a really good inside player on offense.

My recollection is that a guy might play 25 minutes one night and 15 the next according to the matchups. And they always seemed to produce up to the peak of their ability,

Another interesting thing was that the first two guards off the bench were walk-ons Walter Gibson and Corey Taylor and they were both pretty good players.

That team was amazingly healthy, but there was one game that Jasper missed (sprained ankle or something) against Army and Walter started and scored in double figures.

One of my great memories from that year was a double overtime win at Loyola where the first and second overtimes were forced by buzzer beaters. SPC's winning score was right at the end of the second overtime, too.

Both teams scored over 100 points and Kevin Green and Tracy Bergan each scored over 30 points for Loyola.

Because Connell, Tony Walker, Jasper Walker and Antoine Allen had all fouled out, the Peacocks finished the game with Marvin Andrews, Kenny Mack, Walter Gibson and Corey Taylor and a fifth guy I can't recall. And despite guys playing unfamiliar roles, SPC won.

Marvin played all 50 minutes and even though he was about 6-3, he won the opening tip and both overtime tips against the Loyola center, who was 6-10 or 6-11.

Ike Kuhns, who had been a newspaperman since the 50s or early 60s, covered the game (yes, in Baltimore) for the Star-Ledger and he said it was one of the greatest games he ever saw in person.

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[> [> [> [> Re: St. Peter's history. -- PoconoPhil, Wednesday, December 26, 10:18:33pm [1]

I don't remember that game but I do remember BU (coached by Rick Pitino) against SPC in the early eighties. Both squads were like 15-1 and Yanitelli was packed SRO on a weekday night(a lot of fans had to be turned away). Mark Murphy hit the winning basket with a couple of seconds left. SPC had a player whose name I forget, but he was a transfer from a JC and whenever he made a free throw he would wave "bye-bye" to the ball. He was Bob Dukiet's first "find".

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[> [> [> [> Re: St. Peter's history. -- NickD, Thursday, December 27, 05:22:57pm [1]

That transfer was Jimmy Brandon and he was broght in the year before by coach Kelly ,he was not a Dukiet recruit.. That team was in my mind one of the best in Peacocks history Cliff Anderson,Kevin Rodgers,Jim Brandon,William Brown,Tim Dooley,Bill McDevitt and Mark Murphy, As I recall they werte all either McDonald or Kelly recruits with Dukiet the coach at his best.

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: St. Peter's history. -- PoconoPhil, Thursday, December 27, 06:31:42pm [1]

Dukiet was an odd sort of fellow. He liked to stall and shorten the game down to the last three minutes. He also scheduled as many non-D1 opponents as possible. But, if he stayed at SPC he would have won at least twenty games each year and still would be here.

If Dunne doesn't work out, SPC should try to get Dukiet back. I feel that he would have a winning record his first year back.

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[> [> [> Re: St. Peter's history. -- loyal, Thursday, December 27, 12:13:04am [1]

Jim Brandon, signed in late August from Walla Walla JC, was the go-to player on Dukiet's breakout team of '79-80.

That '80 team represented the best coaching job in SPC history.....decent talent in Brown, Murphy, Anderson and Brandon....but the sum was way greater than the parts.

Following the '80 season and leveraging it's success, SPC had verbal commitmets from both Richie Anderson (who later starred at UNLV (courtesy of Rich Ganulin, who left Dukiet's staff to join Tark at UNLV) and a 6'9" player from Freehold who wound up starring for Cheney at Temple. Neither landed at SPC....had they done so, SPC would have won a few MAAC's in the early 80's and possibly become the Northern NJ entry into the Big East....

Ifa, woulda, coulda.....if we are patient, I think Dunne can get us to a top level MAAC team...but as a prior poster mentioned....that will happen over 2 or 3 recruiting classes....so patience is a virtue for now.

Enough of a stroll down memory lane. Let's beat Fairfield Friday.

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[> [> [> [> Re: St. Peter's history. -- SPC Fan, Thursday, December 27, 12:43:17am [1]

The player you refer to who played for Temple after giving us a verbal was Granger Hall out of Clayton High School in Glassboro area. Actually recruited there by Don Casey the coach at the time. Chaney replaced Casey.

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[> [> [> [> Re: St. Peter's history. -- PoconoPhil, Thursday, December 27, 10:40:23am [1]

What a stroll?!? We go from a statement that SPC could have been in the Big East to: Let's beat Fairfield! So that's where the program has progressed to: Let's beat Fairfield! FAIRFIELD!

What're you guys going to say about the Providence game: Let's keep the margin of loss within twenty-five?

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: St. Peter's history. -- Peacock, Thursday, December 27, 10:57:04am [1]

Our history would have nothing to do with getting into the Big East. Few realize it, but most of our administrations never wanted that type of opportunity. Hell, even Seton Hall was not wanted, but only got in because Rutgers turned it down.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: St. Peter's history. -- college BB fan, Thursday, December 27, 02:49:39pm [1]

Wrong! Ru was Never even considered. The ONLY reason that SHU got in (as an after thought)was : HOLY CROSS turned down the Big East. ASK DAVE G.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> BS, Rutgers was always considered superior to SHU -- Peacock, Thursday, December 27, 03:17:37pm [1]

HC had nothing to do with it. It was a geographic necessity for a NJ team and SHU was a garbage program at the time versus Rutgers. Gavit never was known to tell the truth anyway if it reflected bad on the BE.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: BS, Rutgers was always considered superior to SHU -- Fraedo, Sunday, December 30, 11:14:08am [1]

Garbage program? At least Seton Hall had a gym with parking.

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[> Re: St. Peter's history./re Anthony Green -- NickD, Sunday, December 23, 11:51:34pm [1]

Anthony Green was a favorite of mine during the Dukiet era. I would sit behind bench and yell out to Dukiet "put Green in". He was 6'6 and a nice player but he never made all MAAC. The players that did make all MAAC in 1984 were Tommy Best and Shelton Gibbs.

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[> [> Re: St. Peter's history./re Anthony Green -- PoconoPhil, Wednesday, December 26, 09:29:12am [1]

Several other top-notch Peacocks were Tony Holm (he and Mike D'Antoni of the Suns had a classic game back in the early 70s),Tom Schwester, Harry Lorry, Phil Jameson, Chuck Veterano, Mark Murphy (I think he was the star player when SPC defeated BU which was coached by Rick Pitino) and Darrel Rowe (I think that was his name.)

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[> Re: St. Peter's history. -- jimsouls, Friday, December 28, 08:45:33pm [1]

Tim,
The game at Loyola was a triple overtime game - the first triple OT I ever saw. Walter Gibson absolutely lit it up in the extra sessions.
On a personal note, it created a real dilemma. I also planeed to see Iona and LaSalle in Philly that night (the Loyola game was an afternoon game). I just barely made it in time for tipoff, but did in fact make the second game.

Another interesting road game was the one at Fairfield, where Connell went absolutely nuts and scored about 17 points in a seven-minute stretch in the first half. Me and my buddy who made the trek were incredulous. It was as if Connell had turned into James Worthy, gliding from end to end.

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