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Date Posted: Tuesday, February 03, 01:20:14pm
Author: jajk
Subject: Re: Siena Posters
In reply to: oldtimer#1 's message, "Siena Posters" on Tuesday, February 03, 10:01:39am

Oldtimer , I appreciated your post . It articulated what I flail about at times on this board and the MAAC board . And to emphasize , we are talking about a small group from the Siena fan base , Unfortunately , while their numbers are a limited to a handful or two , they are the most vocal by far .

These posters have just not learned that you can applaud your players and program without demeaning those of other schools in your own conference . As I here mentioned here before ,I was lucky enough to know Charlie Brown growing up so I lived and died with Siena when Marc played there . I was also a big fan of the way Doremus Bennerman played the game so I followed Siena closely during his career . Being they were a MAAC team representing a fellow small Catholic school made that rooting all the more enjoyable . And as we and other SPC fans have said , their current team is a highly talented group for our conference . But I do find it less fun rooting for them these days when this group of their fans go out of their way to demean our school .

Often they attempt to justify their desire to kick us out of the MAAC with diatribes about our underfunding of the basketball and other sports programs . My reaction to this as a Jersey City kid is that they should mind their own freakin business . It is great that they have their arena and their media attention in the Albany market . They like to say over and over again 'don't get bitter , get better '. I say get the freak over it and deal with reality . You are a member of a conference of small schools . Don't waste your time criticizing other schools in your confrence , use it all to get your administration to move your school to another conference . There was a fine MAAC before Siena and there will be a fine one if Siena leaves .

Do I envy aspects of the Siena program . Not their wins ,we have had them and more . Not their players ,I love to root for our guys . Not their arena , I think Yanitelli is a great place to watch a college basketball game . I'll take being close to the action over a big arena any day of the week . I'll take the atmosphere of the SPC and Manhattan full house ( yes it was only three years ago )over that garbage bag filled arena that Siena has any day of the week. At its best , Yanitelli is the smaller school part of mid-major basketball at its best .But their is one thing that I do envy and that is their fan base , their attendance . While we are a totally different market than Siena I would hope that all of us in the SPC community would make every effort to improve this . Certainly winning helps here , but the administration has to improve their efforts here significantly . But the last thing we need is for Siena fans to tell us how to do it . Tend to your own situation . Things can change quite quickly .

I understand that individual school boards and conference boards have different reasons for being . At their best , conference boards are about sharing information , differing opinions about players and games ,and rooting for all the schools . But obviously , they also involve all of us revisiting our youth with a little trash talk . But this group of Siena fans clearly go over the line when mocking our players ,program ,neighborhhoods and city .

I would just like to end by mentioning that which I found recently to the most egregious example of the foul behavior of this group of Siena fans . Before the Siena and Holy Cross game , a Cross fan brought up his fantasy Catholic school conference for HC to be a member of . It included a number of current MAAC schools , including Siena and SPC . Two of the Siena fans from the group that I am talking about went on the board of a school from another conference to detail that while this was a good idea , it definitely should not include SPC because we did not live up to their defined standards . Denigrating another school in your own conference on the board of a school outside the conference is about as low as you can go .

I had misgivings about beginning this thread on our board . But I guess the shots being taken on the Siena board got the best of me . With apologies ,I hope that this post will end it and allow it return to what it should be all about - the guys and gals representing SPC.

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[> guns of navarrone is right -- peacack, Tuesday, February 03, 08:37:33pm [1]

all you posters do is whine about siena fans well theyve earned it, spc is the worst program in the maac, not to mention the facilities are worse than most 3rd world youth centers. its ok though loyal alumn, let us pray for more money cause the good lord knows we aint got none.


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[> [> Unlike you. -- Guns of Navarone, Wednesday, February 04, 09:44:41am [1]

Unlike you, I want the Peacocks to succeed. I'm just tired of burying my head in the sand. By the way, nice job getting back to .500 after starting out 1-9.


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[> [> [> Signs of encouragement -- Alistair MacLean, Friday, February 06, 03:21:25pm [1]

New handle, new outlook....hopefully, even a more balanced ideology.

Even the best sometimes have trouble swallowing.


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[> [> You've come mighty close to exposing peacack with that one ,Guns of Navarone. -- Reading between the lines., Wednesday, February 04, 04:11:24pm [1]

It's time to move on ,Peacack.


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[> [> [> Re: You've come mighty close to exposing peacack with that one ,Guns of Navarone. -- peacack, Wednesday, February 04, 06:50:23pm [1]

exposing me? move on to what? its fun to watch the athletic department Fail.


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