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Date Posted: Tuesday, January 06, 11:05:56am
Author: loyal
Subject: Plea for Sanity
In reply to: oldtimer#1 's message, "Re: good outings" on Tuesday, January 06, 08:47:06am

Please don't use John Wooden and Coach Dunne in the same sentence, paragraph or post.

Thank you.

Now, if we only had a Sam Gilbert.......

:>)

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Plea for Sanity -- oldtimer#1, Tuesday, January 06, 12:32:38pm [1]

figgy, I totally agree with your assessment. My only problem is if Hall doesn't develop then I'd much rather have Nick on the court. At this stage of their development Nick contributes far more. Remember, like everyone else he is just a sophomore, even though he
was red-shirted, for lack of a better term. Interesting also that we never take Wesley to task. Now I think as highly of him as most but he has had several very poor games (excuses aside) to go with his one oustanding game against Cansius. His assist turnover ratio is slighly worse than Nick's and their shooting percentages over the last year and a half are quite similar. I understand the pressure that both he and Nick are under, both being given special attention on defense. Bottom line is that I really like Wesley, Ryan and Nick,and am hoping for Hall and Hill's development. As posted. I see Gooding and Costner as valuable role players and have seen enough of Conley to understand that he will help big time. Like you I am waiting for that shooting/scoring #3 that we obviously lack. Love to see Hall develop and Nick be a backup point or sub for Wesley. Right now, that's just not the case.


To Loyal, while I appreciate most of your posts I hope you don't fall into that wise-guy attitude of taking unnecessary shots. There was obviously no intention to compare Dunne to Wooden. For your clearer understanding the point was that some coaches don't devote as much time to all their players while others do. It is my observation, at least in those sessions I observed, that JD attempts to give equal instruction and attention to all. I'll let you and other "experts" opine how sussessful that has been.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Plea for Sanity -- loyal, Tuesday, January 06, 01:27:56pm [1]

Wooden/Dunne comment was an attempt at "gallows humor"....not taking a potshot.

You are absolutely right: Leon is much more effective than Hall right now. It's not an easy decision, but if I were Dunne, I'd find minutes for Hall and Hill this season, at the expense of results. Why? Because whether we win 3 or 5 MAAC games this season is far less important than seeing if:

1. Hall can be our PG.
2. Hill can be a valuable part of a 7/8 man rotation.

The first issue is critical for Dunne, and for all of us intending to watch the club for the rest of Dunne's tenure.

I'll stick with my assessment....if Hall can't cut it at the point by next season, Dunne's tenure here is toast....because this roster can't possibly get it done and even if Conley and (?) hit the ground running (a big if) the absence of a solid point will seriously impede the progress THIS roster can make....not enough others can handle, even minimally.

On the other hand, if Hall outplays his recruiting pedigree and can be a good MAAC point, it will help this team immeasurably. We won't find that out with him on the bench.....I'd gladly forsake a meaningless win or two for the sake of the "big picture".


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Plea for Sanity -- oldtimer#1, Tuesday, January 06, 02:16:58pm [1]

No problem, loyal. Good post. My only point of disagreement is that next year's performance will depend more on how Conley pans out and if we can get that shooting stud that you have been talking about at the #3.

If that's occurs, either Hall or Leon will be good enough I'll stick my neck out and predict that if those two things happen , we will be more than competitive.

Finally my position on JD is quite simple. You will have no argument from me that he has not gotten the job done. I have no idea if he will. However, I do object to those one sided evaluations that the guy does nothing right. Not referring to you in that comment. We do have some objective fans such as SPC Fan who calls it both ways. He criticizes Dunne when appropriate but posted accurately that JD out coached Gonzales in the Seton Hall game. As far as I'm concerned all this is moot. The guy has a contract and I'm sure feels much more pressure than all of us frustrated fans. If we had the players I venture that you, I or most could coach a team. Definitely not the preferred senario but the point is that having the players helps make the coach. Sorry to use Wooden again, but one of his quotes that I like is that many coaches can coach good players but only great coaches can coach great players. I like that analysis.


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