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Re: Hanging tough -- Cindy Crawford, Sunday, January 11, 07:24:01am [1]
Shot clock violation was clear,but I would put the blame on the SPC timekeeper.
Through the years we have been hurt many times by their incompetency.
I would suggest that they be sent to Monmouth U. for lessons in how to establish a real home court advantage rather than a disadvantage.
Also agree that a win is very big today.I hope Akeem can return and contribute,and that Wes finds himself.
Also looking forward to the Patsos comedy hour.
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Re: Hanging tough -- oldtimer#1, Sunday, January 11, 08:24:27am [1]
figgy, you're a stand up guy whose posts I enjoy. You take a position and explain your reasons why and never in a put down type of style. I respect and enjoy your point of view. As several posters have pointed out, reasonable people can disagree especially since none of us are experts (who is?).
With regard to Nick Leon, I understand your position quite well. You respect his playing ability but have serious doubts that he would be a starter on an upper tier MAAC team. You see him as a valuable role player. I see him as more than that. Our differences are probably different shades of the same color.
Nick had some very good games last year. I can think of several but one that I just checked the stat line was Providence. Shot 5/7, 12 points, 3 steals, 8 assists 1 turnover. Not bad for a freshman. Of course he had some poor games and had certain parts of his game that needed improvement. I think as a Soph. he has developed well. In three of our four wins he has been our dominant player (Wes did not play at NJIT). Even at the Cansius game where Wesley played lights out, Nick was almost as good.
IMO our future is with Wesley, Ryan and Nick and the two other now famous players that we may or may not have to be named later. Wes is our star and Ryan has the potential to be one. I would hope that Nick would be a solid contributor but I do not see his upside as great as theirs. With regard to how he plays this afternoon, I don't care if he goes 0 for the world, he has already proven himself to be a very, very good player.
I also agree with you and Cindy that a win today will be very big. It's definitely a game we could win. However, expectations are funny. The odds makers have us as a slight underdog (including whatever home court advantage they think we have). This tells me they think our chances of winning are slightly below 50%. Many of us are so anxious for a win that we will be disapointed if we don't put a W up on the board. Guess I will be also but it's not as if we should. JD and staff need to prove something and another loss will probably just confirm the lack of success the program has shown to date. In that we probably agree.
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Not going to make it an issue -- Peacock, Sunday, January 11, 10:38:41am [1]
But you do need to stop representing issues that make you feel good. The issue on Leon and Lampley was not who should be started but who should have been groomed at the point. In fact a major dispute last year was not that Leon was bad but that he was better suited at the 2 and was more a 2 guard. That is the fact that you are seeing today. The fact that by default he must play the point due to zero offense at that position does not alter the argument. In fact how many assists did Leon have at the Niagara game. In the end most felt both Leon and Lampley belonged on the floor, and not anywhere near the issue of who was the better player. Add in you midget arguments and one can see that revisionism is a key to your positions.
Also despite your need to continually invoke agreement with others and praise for others while throwing some stones shows that you are no more than a closet caricature of those you want to take shots at.
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Re: Not going to make it an issue -- oldtimer#1, Sunday, January 11, 12:34:48pm [1]
Try to stop telling other people what they need to do and your need to become an amateur psychologist.I read your posts last year and typical of when you feel threatened you rewrite the issue or ,at best, try to tone it down. Your posts last year were not as you try to represent above. Most were written in your typical put down style, and there were many. I've tried to keep you out of my posts but obviously I struck a nerve. Live with it, you create your own problems.
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Re: Not going to make it an issue -- Peacock, Sunday, January 11, 05:36:28pm [1]
You are so pompous it hurts. The issue was always about point guard and you sir are the classic revisionist. You got caught lying about an incident I supposedly had with Leckie and you now formulate lies to fit your need. From what I can tell you also lied about knowing anything about the Spann issue.
When one analyzes your position, you are an employee of St Peter's College athletic department that pretends to be objective and constantly defends or objects to anything that might put your buddies in a bad light. Why else does it take you so long to justify your own opinion. Let Drutz do the spin control as he is paid to do it. Also you should try reading the archives, you might see what kind of jerk you really are.
Just for fun go to these posts, and I can put up quite a few more to show what kind of biased jerk you really are.
Lampley Discussion If you don't recognize who BBIQ, just look in the mirror.
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Careful, before you self indict -- Sludge, Sunday, January 11, 05:53:35pm [1]
hmmmmmmmmmm....thank you for reminding who was critical of Dunne for bringing in too many midgets. Guess Jenkins of Iona did not fit that description.
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Re: Not going to make it an issue -- oldtimer#1, Sunday, January 11, 10:05:56pm [1]
Unfortunately, for you, your reputation has already been established in your history of posting. Don't like being called a liar but somehow from you I don't mind. So I took your advice and cherrypicked on my own. Here were some of your quotes on Leon: "too slow", "not a good head for smart basketball", "not even adequate at the point" and my favorite "his drives are horrible at best". Huh! Nick is the best driver and finisher on the team and among the best in the league!!!
It gets even better in funnier. Today you asked me how many assists did Nick get against Niagara? I nominate that for the stupidest post of the year. The guy scored 25 pts., was, along with Ryan Bacon, clearly the best player on the floor. Who cares how many assists he had! Stupid
Finally, regarding the Spann issue. While you pontificating about why Spann left I merely posted that I had no idea what happened and unless someone was in the room all, is hearsay and conjecture. Guess I hurt your feelings by challenging that you know the facts about every situation. One poster chided you and asked if you were a family member. That was funny also. Never met or knew Kevin Spann and posted that unless someone was in the room that all anyone posted was speculation and conjecture. Have a problem with that or were you indeed in the room?
Can't seem to lose you. Post your BS but try to keep me out of your stuff.
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Your lack of civility is only surpassed by your lack of recall -- Sludge, Sunday, January 11, 05:41:24pm [1]
You are a master of viewing through your anal end. A little bit of misdirection, mixed with your customary attempt to play loose with the facts once more.
Wonder who the "most" are that believed Leon and Lampley belonged in the same backcourt together. Yes, the lack of size was in fact an issue. Leon, Lampley, Jenkins and Orta on the same floor together? I don't think so. While most might agree that Nick is better suited for the 2, few, at least last year, saw Lampley with the capability, demeanor or understanding to handle the point. Thus, by necessity, Nick was burdened with the responsibilty for the lead. Only with Hall's arrival this year has he been able to gradually spend more time at the 2.
Nick has become without doubt our most valuable player this year. Oldtimer was probably the most perceptive in pointing this out to us, even as early as when last year was drawing to a close. Unlike some, I can admit to a change in my appraisal, first viewing Nick as too slow or weak defensively to be a major contributor. While some may also view player development as non existent under Dunne, the last several games are beginning to show that this is not the case (see Bacon).
I find amusing again your attempt to seek miniscule fault for detraction so that you might continue to hold fast to your intransigent agenda. Taking issue with Nick not having any assists in the Niagara game only further marks your ignorance. Perhaps your frequent reliance on a radio account for information may be responsible, as further examination would have revealed that Nick played only half the game at point and, by necessity, was forced to become the shooter and scorer. Others, aside from maybe Bacon, could not be relied upon to receive the ball and execute. Thus, the lack of any assists.
While Oldtimer has tried to establish some dialogue and reasonable debate, you continue to see stones that undoubtedly emanate and rebound from the source that I address. A good win today. Maybe it will give some the opportunity to relect upon one of our staff's primary objectives this year. Remember amongst all our criticisms what it was? DEFENSE!!!! Along with game management this seems to be what has kept us competitive of late. Call it playing ugly if you choose. Much like the detractors and mindless from the other boards that only know to love their own.
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