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Date Posted: Sunday, April 13, 10:01:29am
Author: loyal
Subject: How Will We Score?
In reply to: SPC Fan 's message, "Re: Anybody subscribe to NJHoops?" on Sunday, April 13, 08:59:41am

I agree that either improvement by Leon/Lampley and/or the arrival of Hall offers some hope for improved point guard play next season.
However, realistically, it's a lot to expect that Hall, not being recruited by any other D 1 programs, will play effectively as a frosh. Leon/Lampley showed few signs of being able to handle the point.....as is evidenced by JD's recruitment of Hall. No way JD figured a year ago this time he'd be pounding the pavement and using a valuable scholarship for a PG.
So, I am not sure where significantly improved PG play is likely to come from.
Will also offer neither Gooding nor a player possessing Conley's likely frosh skills would get much time on top division MAAC clubs (no floor time at all on last year's Marist, Rider, Siena, Loyola or Niagara rosters,for example).
As the roster is currently constituted....with our "1", "3" and "5" PROJECTED STARTER spots being maintained by players who would get very marginal, if any, playing time on first division MAAC club.....there is a strong probability we are in for a long, long season....I suspect only Jenkins (30 min?) and Bacon (20-25 min?) would get significant time on a first division MAAC team.
A ray of hope for me would be if this year's incoming class contained another Jenkins quality player, or even a Bacon (high potential) player.
My guess is only one of Leon/Lampley/Mumphord will be hear in a year....so other scholarships may open up. I think that is our only hope to be good anytime soon. We'll see.

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[> [> [> [> [> I am still surprised? -- Peacock, Sunday, April 13, 06:01:06pm [1]

The issue is not going to exactly who will score but who will be in a position to score. Not one has thought about the fact that we lose two glaciers in our offense. While one can give Sowell credit for his rebounding, he also gave away many points with slow movement and hands of stone. No need to debate this point, but our team as constituted will need a much different style than the simplistic one of last season. The measure of next season to just get out of single digits wins will be how diverse our offense will attempt to be. If the talent is not their, so be it, but if we have the same style of last season where many posters had to become creative to tell us that it was there, then we will be doomed even if we had Siena's roster.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> I wouldn't be -- Sludge, Monday, April 14, 04:11:35pm [1]

"If the talent is not their"

Of course the talent will be there.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: I wouldn't be -- loyal, Monday, April 14, 05:05:18pm [1]

I am not sure what type of offensive style can generate points from a front line of Bacon, Conley and Gooding.

Not sure any of the three can dribble or shoot from outside, or post anyone up, for that matter, unless they completely morph their game during the off season...or unless Conley is a superstar as a frosh.

I struggle to imagine how their skill sets fit into any type of half court offense. Every offense I know needs players who can, at the very least, pass and shoot....or pass and dribble. A transition offense (see Siena, Niagara) requires a "3" that can shoot from outside...who might that be on next years roster for us?

I think we are left with only blind faith as an option.

Let's hope we get a pleasant surprise (or two?) April 16th.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> What is more surprising is how little -- Peacock, Tuesday, April 15, 05:52:04pm [1]

you respect Gooding or Bacon. I am not even sure what would turn your head, as most players are nothing more than names when recruited. When one dissecects most of your posts, the only option would be blind faith or lack of same in the coaches.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: What is more surprising is how little -- loyal, Wednesday, April 16, 10:27:57pm [1]

Jenkins turns my head. :>) Bacon's potential (not his play last year) intrigues me.

Bacon and Gooding averaged about 4-5 points per game each, during about 22 minutes of play, on average...with defenses collapsing on Sowell. Will they need to collapse on Conley? If not, will Bacon and Gooding be challenged even more offensively?

Unless they morph into completely different offensive players, it's hard to see how they will become significant scoring threats next season.

Bacon has lots of upside rebounding and defensively. Scoring? We'll see. Not sure if Gooding has any upside, unless he can shoot a 12 footer consistently. I think Akeem is at best a 7th/8th man on a good MAAC roster.....just my opinion.

You may be right about the coaching scheme; I don't know. I do think there is a severe lack of offense on next years roster. Jenkins will be taken out of many games by defenses focused on our one pure scoring threat. We will need Bacon, Gooding or Conley or Leon to score 20 ppg. for us to win on any given night. Think that is a realistic possibility, bases on what we've seen so far?

I do agree the same person shopped and is preparing the meal, so the responsibilty has to be placed squarely on JD if we have another play-in year.

So far, two play in years plus a bleak outlook next season = a two year extension.

Depressed yet? I am.

Let's hope the one left plus some defection scholarships used wisely can pull us out of the hole we are in.


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