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Date Posted: Friday, February 29, 11:48:56pm
Author: Cindy Crawford
Subject: For those who couldn't watch...

...after the Peacocks trailed 43-19 late in the first half,there were some bright spots. Topping these was theplay of Lampley,whose second half 14 pts gave him a team high 20 in only 23 minutes to go with only two turnovers.He progress has been steady lately as he is much more under control,with better shot selection.
Wes Jenkins also had another solid game with 19 pts and 4 threes to match Lampley,and 4 steals.Spitler did his thing in 16 minutes with three steals,and 6 pts including a three.Todd battled Jason Thompson valiantly on the blocks with 18 points and fifteen boards,but was burned repeatedly by the opportunistic Thompson who ran the floor extremely well hanging chippies all night long.
Justin Robinson also repeatedly cashed in in the first half driving and dishing in the paint for the Broncs.
On the down side,Raul,without mask ,was 1-7 from the field,many squared up good looks. His only three came on a desperation shot as the time clock expired. Many of the misses weren't even close.I fear that he has lost his confidence.
On one side the Peacocks continued their bad habit of slow starts,down 11-1 out of the box,on the other hand they kept their composure and at one point were a missed Leon three from being down only four.
On another note,this was the first time I've seen tailgate grilling and scalpers at a MAAC game.

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[> Re: For those who couldn't watch... -- Beagle, Saturday, March 01, 12:08:15am [1]

I was impressed with the play of Lampley and Jenkins, SPC will be in need of some forwards on next years team to go with a good looking group of young guards, Good Luck on Sunday, hope you pull one out on Sr day.


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[> [> Re: For those who couldn't watch... -- loyal, Saturday, March 01, 12:58:20am [1]

Next season's fate is becoming much clearer.

Gradually, Lampley and Jenkins and Leon are improving.

Stating the painfully obvious, we need a ready-to-contribute rebounder to team up with Bacon next season, or else all of our potential good guard play will be for naught.... our success depends squarely on inking a prime rebounder ready to help next season.

If I know it, Dunne knows it in spades.

I just hope a "philosophy" doesn't preclude us going after a JC rebound IF one is out there. It would be sad to see our promising guards improvement completely neutered due to us getting consistently abused inside.

Where is Derrick Howell when we need him? :>)


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[> [> [> The future -- Sludge, Saturday, March 01, 12:43:49pm [1]

While the obvious need is for a big guy in the middle who can contibute immediately, reality dictates that we find a guard that can lead. Our current points are off guards, reasonably good shooters but lacking the talent (Leon), or mindset (Lampley), to play the lead position. Leon makes the effort but struggles with his passing and ball handling. Darrell is simply a two guard, masquerading in a point guard's body. The staff is aware of our needs and, in addition to looking/settling for another power forward (read: big guy that can rebound/play defense), has, as a priority, a big point (read: can see/pass over the double team), who sees the floor, can pass, handle, play defense and wants to be the man at crunch time. Although a lot to ask, this is one who has the potential to develop and grow into his role, albeit after suffering through some painstaking and challenging speed bumps. A Jasper Walker, Mike Frensley type come to mind.

In retrospect, the season has been disappointing for most, although many here have characteristically substituted more expectation in place of reality. Particularly frustrating is that we have been in a number of games at the end and lacked the ability/mind strength to close. The lack of focus, particularly at game break, has also been an obvious weakness. Much can be traced to the abundance of newcomers, playing three and sometimes four (plus Gooding), after Raul's injury/loss of confidence. No one in the league, save Canisius, has had to depend on so much youth. Even taking youth into account, the team has not shown much development, with defense, poor passing, and a general lack of smarts, being the major shortcomings. For those who wish to apply a more perfunctory answer; yes, the staff has also raised questions concerning teaching, strategy and tactics . Perhaps from lack of experience, but maybe more from directing a team that is still not able to absorb and execute much of what is taught.

The team will likely gain in the season's ahead. Unfortunately, lack of strength and experience up front, and leadership in the backcourt, will undoubtedly slow our progress. It's still early of course, and in a relatively weak conference, anything is possible for the future. A larger budget outlay, and a more positive Administration approach to athletics, can not hurt.


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[> [> [> [> Re: The future -- jajk, Saturday, March 01, 02:54:03pm [1]

Many of your recent posts imply that you are on the inside of this situation. If that is the case,I am even more concerned about the staff than I am from watching the games. It is distressing to see this team fall behind by ten or twelve points at the start of so many games. It is one question to ask when a player gets it. It is another to ask when a staff gets it. I find it hard to believe that the talent differential between this team and the rest of the MAAC this year was sufficient to explain away our record.


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[> [> [> [> [> Re: The future -- SPC Alum, Sunday, March 02, 03:57:02am [1]

Jajk, I simply agree with your comments.Fallng behind is one thing but losing close games is anther. It is of my opinion that close games are won and lost by the coach in the end with the decisions he makes. They discussed this on college gameday today on ESPN.To touch on Sludges comments about the need for a point guard. Can we hold the staff to task for not being able to land at least one pure pg in 2 years? I'm sorry but that position should be easier to recruit than a big man in te middle. Which is why I think the loss of Sowell will be felt the most. Sludge uses the excuse about youth, look at all the teams in the league and tell me about youth. You are right about one thing, time will tell next year and the year after that. There will be no more Jason Thompson, Charron Fisher and Loyola loses alot. We must show progress and I disagree that there has been some made. I hear a three year extension has been given. I'm no insider but I do know a few people there. What do you think about that if it is tue?


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[> [> [> [> [> [> Two points -- Cindy Crawford, Sunday, March 02, 07:18:04am [1]

In the two previous "close" losses,plays called at the end to win the games were very good.At Niagara, Raul missed an open three for the game winner, where he had time to be squared up. Against BU, Lampley missed an open drive to the hoop after beating his man on an isolation.
Secondly,Dunne has really only had one year of recruiting for a point guard because of his late hire the previous year.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Two points -- Sludge, Sunday, March 02, 10:36:40am [1]

Good points Cindy. In both these cases it was the failure to exectute rather than poor strategy on the part of the staff.

Yes, Dunne has had realistically only one year to recruit. What I find amusing is that, only a few months back, most of the posters here were convinced that we had locked up a solid point in Leon, and a very athletic guard in Lampley who could transition into his new role. I even recall one of our posters beating the drums for Nick following his perfomance for Lincoln in the PSAL Championships. Likewise, in calling Lampley a great pickup for SPC.

In response to SPC Alum's comment on youth, who, aside from Canisius, which has been equally inept, has depended upon 3-4 Freshmen throughout the season? Manhattan comes closest with maybe 2-3, and see where they are this season. Maybe this tells us something. See the top performers; Loyola, Niagara, and Siena (young but EXPERIENCED); all have veterans leading their squads.

Too much emphasis, in my opinion, has been directed at the staff. There are many other factors that have and will continue to play a role in our development.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: The future -- NickD, Sunday, March 02, 06:41:50pm [1]

Yeah the 18 yr olds are running the team and responsible for our MISERABLE record. Besides making the tactable decisions the staff are the ones that recruited the players. In college the coaching is at least 85% of the game. Stop giving them the benefit of the doubt and blaming the players who are much more flawed then what most of us had hoped.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: The future -- petersfan, Monday, March 03, 09:33:39am [1]

With three guards under 5-11; 5-11 (maybe), 5-10 (maybe) & 5-8 and we are still looking for a lead guard! This tells the whole story!


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[> Re: For those who couldn't watch... -- SPC Fan, Saturday, March 01, 04:14:07pm [1]

Sludge,i agree with your comments. My question regarding the staff, is it the players not absorbing what is taught or the concept,the approach,ability to communicate,or simply lack of talent. Hard to tell from the outside..
Lampley was outstanding last night and Jenkins also played well. Saw bright spots from Bacon as well. Todd and Spitler gave valliant effort as well.Leon totally outmatched and outquicked by Robinson of Rider.
That said i still feel its hard to explain away a 6 win season only one win beter than last years depleted roster on just youth alone. I do see improvement finally over the last few weeks after a horrid two months (dec,jan).


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[> [> Re: For those who couldn't watch... -- loyal, Saturday, March 01, 05:01:37pm [1]

I agree with the poster above indicating a better point guard would represent an upgrade....but....if we don't bring two solid rebounders on to the roster before next November, the season will be over before it starts.

Simply put, the current roster, plus the frosh coming in so far (unless Conley is Wes Unseld II), will not allow us to be competitive rebounding the ball, even in the MAAC, in '08 - '09.


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[> [> Re: For those who couldn't watch... -- Sludge, Saturday, March 01, 09:46:32pm [1]

Always easy and sometimes convenient to take the staff to task for the disappointments and lack of significant progress. One can never be sure of the cause. Have they failed in selecting the proper roles for the right person, or maybe plays were not designed to suit the strengths of the personnel. So many other questions can be asked but few of us have any real answers. As in any business, this being the business of sport, performance should and must be determined on the basis of results. On this count, the results have not been good. Neither has it been good over the past seven or eight years, with only the fortuitous arrival of Clark, keeping this program from a 4-6 game win seaon each year.

What am I saying here? Has Dunne merely kept the "tradition" going, owing to poor Administration funding and support, outdated facilities, poor location and, in general, a total disinterest and neglect from the College communitity?

What has he started with? A bunch of malcontents from the prior year? A group of seven freshmen his second year who, other then from the few diehards here, were not considered to be more than two star prospects by the rating services, and as further borne out by the other schools in pursuit of these recruits? By their performances this year, one can only make the case perhaps for Jenkins rising a shade above this consensus.

So where are we with this? While some here may wish to again identify me as an apologist for looking at all the causes, the reality is we do not know if there is any one issue that can be attributed to the poor outcome.

Maybe the next year or two will tell us more. Certainly, with last year as a non-entity, and this year with a group of new and inexperienced recruits, next year and the year following will tell us what is in store for the program and, with that, the staff. The lack of visible progress remains my biggest concern. On the other hand, like most other supporters, did we overvalue the talent level and, with that, the recruiting skills of Dunne? Or are these Freshmen just slow learners; or will we conclude ultimately that the staff is not capable of managing a successful Division I program?

Maybe we will learn this in the next year or two. Or again, coming from the other side, maybe we will just get another group of coaches who, unfortunately, will allow us to argue once again over these same issues. One can always ask the questions, few of us, other than the self-anointed, can give us the answers. Stay tuned.


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[> Re: For those who couldn't watch... -- Beagle, Saturday, March 01, 05:46:33pm [1]

I am still pulling for SPC to get another win this year. I think you guys have a chance to win on Sr day if Lampley and Jenkins can shoot like they did last night and Sowell is motivated and wants to dominate his last home game, Orta is terrible and needs to stop shooting. Good luck tomorrow.


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