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Date Posted: Sunday, March 09, 02:05:29pm
Author: oldtimer#1
Subject: Re: Keep practicing spin control
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Peacock
's message, "Keep practicing spin control" on Sunday, March 09, 11:31:30am
And how would you know anything about any of the above? You post as if you were privy to all the those intimate conversations. We know you weren't since you're a persona non grata. Also, how would you or anyone for that matter know what transpired between Dunne and Spann? Do you also know any facts about the Hogga incident or just what you read on this Board. Your prior comments about Lampley being disciplined by Dunne also show your ignorance and guesswork as to the facts of the situation. You initially jumped on Dunne implying that he was using too much discipline, until it was pointed out that if indeed the original violation was that of multiple study halls then it was a athletic department mandated violation of which Dunne had little control. Stop spinning things as if you know what's going on. You are the one who has no clue.
Turning to your player assessments they are some of the worst that I have ever encountered. Perhaps that's because you do too much reading and surfing and too little observation. Initially last year you trumpeted Lampley as an outstanding shooter, in the class of Jenkins and Orta (do you want the date and quote?).But how many times did you see him play back then? Scorer yes, outstanding shooter no. There is a difference!
Next we had a debate about Costner's shooting ability. Based on one posters comment that he hit a three in a high school game you proclaimed that he was an outside shooter much better than Gooding. Not even in the same class were your words (again do you want the dates of those comments?) Well Gooding is shooting over .403 this year and while Costner is somewhere near .285. This is not to knock Costner who I understand is working hard on that aspect of his game. Good kid.
Now we have your pontifications on Leon. I have news for you, if Leon were 6'2" we'd have a really, really good player. Nick shoots it almost as well as Jenkins, has a quick release and by far is our best driver to the basket. Leon is not slow. Lampley is super quick but Leon has had no trouble running the floor and has indeed gotten a step on every guard who has defended against him making some of the best driving layups on the team this year. By far our best free throw shooter and knows how to get to the line. Has turnover problems (Lampley is worse here) and needs , like Jenkins, to improve defensively. At 6'2" Leon would be exactly the type of player we need. While this will never be, your observations are again ridiculous.
As far as recruiting goes no coach makes perfect decisions. As Cindy pointed out it's often the case of what is available. After watching Holland play one would wonder why we didn't get him. He is an outstanding player. The answer is simple, he choose to go somewhere else. Couldn't really blame his decision. To use one of your favorite line BE REALISTIC.
This is not to say that we should settle. While I never commented on the Lampley signing, except for what I see now, in no way would I have been against that signing. An All-State player with a reputation for being a scorer, would you not have offered him? I would have and while the jury is still out, it does not look like a wise choice. As for Mumford, don't you remember backing the strategy of signing him since there were doubts if Lampley would ever accept. As stated hindsight is 20/20 but you talk as if you know something about which you speak. Your track record isn't very good.
Don't mind differences of opinion but to get that condescending attitude from someone like you often merits a response. With your track record I wouldn't be criticizing Dunne or anyone else. By the way, since you have all the answers why not submit you application for AD? Should be interesting reading your resume.
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Re: Keep practicing spin control -- SPC Alum, Sunday, March 09, 07:21:58pm [1]
Oldtimer,
I happened to speak with Kevin Spann and here is what he told me. He told me that at the end of the year when they had their individual meetings with the head coach, he was told that they were bringing in a bunch of guards that were going to play right away. He also felt insulted that Dunne told him that he had too many other things going on in his life that was non-basketbal. He resented that assessment because he felt that he came to SPC not just for basketball but for his career after hoops. On top of that Dunne forced or got rid of at least one of his close frends on the team which really hurt him badly.When Kevin told him he wanted to transfer Dunne did little to convince him to stay and it became a battle of egos. But for the most part it was good riddance.Surprisingly they were more concerned about retaining Brock rather than Spann. If this is true then that is a shame the way it was handed. Should Kevin have stayed and met the challenge of the new recruits? Maybe, but it wasn't only that. It was IMO, how he was treated and the losing on top of that didn't help. He would call his family constantkly crying abut what was going on within the team, Something I won't repeat because if that is true then we have other serious issues within the program.Like I said this is coming secomnd hand but believe me it was told to me from his point of view.
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Re: Keep practicing spin control -- oldtimer#1, Sunday, March 09, 11:01:58pm [1]
SPC Alum, I'd much rather talk basketball than hearsay. Forgive me if I am skeptical of any information you post, given your last commentary,since refuted,that Dunne quit on his team at halftime. Just one question though, in your last two sentences you say that there is somehing you won't repeat but nevertheless still post the inuendo. Why not say nothing at all rather than throw more hearsay out there? Certainly raises my eyebrows concerning your intentions.
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Re: Keep practicing spin control -- petersfan, Sunday, March 09, 11:49:15pm [1]
SPC Alum - all this hearsy simply "stinks"!
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Re: Keep practicing spin control -- Sludge, Monday, March 10, 12:23:57am [1]
I think I smell a puddy cat :-)
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