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[> [> Re: Surprise! Sutton Bolts. -- loyal, Monday, July 07, 06:04:56pm [1]

St. Peter's is due for some recruiting luck. The power forward already on campus that went to Miami, the French kid, Dunston, Shawn James, James Smith, etc. all fell the wrong way.

Let's hope Coach Dunne visits Mom and Dad, makes a sincere pitch and lands Sutton for the Peacocks.

Thank goodness Felician is not in the mix! :>)

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[> Re: Surprise! Sutton Bolts. -- oldtimer#1, Monday, July 07, 07:20:28pm [1]

Sounds like his parents are the big influence. Initially some very good reasons were given by Sutton and Coach Anderson for attending SPC. Basketball wise, significant playing time from the get-go and with what happened with Rider's big guy, a Conference with some visibility. On the academic side, the Business Program at SPC is one of our strongest. Manhattan, for example, while an excellent academic school was always primarily engineering oriented. Bottom line was that all the right reasons were there.


Would also have to believe that Sutton was/is looking higher than Binghamton, St. Bonnies etc. Couldn't blame him if he was considered A-10 or even Big East material. Word, however, was that if there was any interest in that direction those other schools were talking prep school rather than immediate playing time.


Finally, the time line of all of this interests me. Sutton visited and committed the weekend of June 14th. His verbal was confirmed by outside scources the following week. So does that mean he rethought things immediately and visited Binghamton the weekend of the 28th? Now we all know that verbals are non-binding but I guess that no one knew this better than the Binghampton coach. The comment that Dunne was suprised to see Sutton at Camp, if true, says more about the kid than I care to speculate. Would like to think that the staff, at least, had a heads-up about what was transpiring. Just goes to show you that college basketball recruiting/transferring is a dirty business.


One final thought. If Sutton is to make a decision on July 8th, the only schools we know he visited are SPC and Binghampton. Would have to think that that date is not solid or he's hoping for an upgraded status and an offer from a higher Conference. All uneducated speculation but an interesting story line nonetheless. Let's see how this soap opera plays out.

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[> [> Re: Surprise! Sutton Bolts. -- loyal, Monday, July 07, 07:37:54pm [1]

Makes sense.

Sutton probably is hoping for a higher offer. I also doubt St. Bonnies or Binghampton are our real "competition"....but that is a pure guess.

Hey, the kid is 18, made an impulsive decision and now has probably been advised to take one last chance to see if the big boys will come calling. It's unfortunate Sutton gave a commitment and is considering retracting that commitment if he gets a better offer.....but heck, we've all made worse decisions....and a lot later in life, too....but let's not go there. :>)

I would be very disappointed to lose him......but SPC was HIS CHOICE. Unless a biggie comes calling, it's a choice he will probably stick with if Dunne and Morton are effective.

Coach Dunne will be making a pitch for his career, IMO, when he calls on Mr. + Mrs. Sutton over the next few days. Without an effective presence in the middle, we are staring down the barrel at another 4-5-6 win season.

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[> Had it on good authority -- Peacock, Monday, July 07, 08:42:39pm [1]

The kid wants to stay local. I am sure many advisors keep pushing the locals and if he chooses otherwise it will be a school in this area. Fordham has failed on all their other objectives so don't be surprised if they came back to him. Manhattan needs a big man in the worst way so they will pitch. St John's needs help evewrywhere. I am sure the experts that have ruined many other kids will do their best to overhype the kid. Advisors have ruined more careers than helped. Seems they just can't let a kid make up his mind if it doesn't go their way. Not that it can't go wrong at SPC, but usually your first choice is generally the best for the kid. Look at his team mates, like Romaine and Sterling. Both now need to go to prep to attain thier hyped opinions of themselves.

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[> Re: Surprise! Sutton Bolts. -- Defense, Tuesday, July 08, 05:03:00pm [1]

Sutton would be a star in the MAAC. He'd also do well in Binghampton, but he wouldn't get any publicity playing there. Hope his parents aren't pushing him to a place where he won't be happy.

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[> Re: Surprise! Sutton Bolts. -- NYC, Tuesday, July 08, 07:08:00pm [1]

You do, of course, realize that St. Bona and Binghamton are infinitely better/higher ceiling programs than St. Peter's, right? With Bona, he'd play in the Atlantic 10 for a school with a large, passionate fan base that has a strong coach in Mark Schmidt who is a great recruiter. At Binghamton, they have a beautiful new arena, large state budget, and transfers such as Theo Davis (Gonzaga) and Tiki Mayben (UMass) to boast of. If he can choose playing in the A-10 in front of 5,000 to 6,000 every night or in a brand new arena at Suny-Bingo over playing in front of 550 at SPC, don't you think he would? Absurd.

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[> [> Re: Surprise! Sutton Bolts. -- loyal, Tuesday, July 08, 07:35:35pm [1]

Have you spent any time in Binghamton? Let me share a story with you.

A friend of mine, an artist who has exhibited in small galleries in NY/NJ, moved to Binghamton a few years ago due to her husbands job transfer. An "art festival" was in the works and she excitedly rented a booth to display her work.

The booth next to hers was occupied by a guy who made airplanes out of beer cans. His booth outdrew hers 10-1.

Anyway, NY Metro area exposure and 10 minute access to NYC is POTENTIALLY far more valuable than living in God-forsaken Binghamton, where winter is 7 months long, or losing by 30 every night in the A-10 and flying home to -5 degree weather.

So there. :>)

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[> [> Let us know where one can find the dust you're snorting -- Alum, Tuesday, July 08, 07:53:49pm [1]

Forget a city kid playing in the barren waste lands and frozen tundra of Hayseed Olean for a program that has been the worst in the conference for the last seven years and who's best known academic specialty is welding.

Or suffer within the industrial decay of Binghamton, NY where the nightly pursuit by team members is generally recognized as bar room shooting. Hard to imagine, but playing in a conference rated even lower than the MAAC.

I'm sure the Mr./Mrs. Sutton would love journeying to these two armpits of the world.

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[> [> Re: Surprise! Sutton Bolts. -- NYC, Thursday, July 10, 12:01:59am [1]

Anything you say, fellas. Good luck with... whatever it is you and your 500 loyal fans are doing there at SPC. It will be interesting to read the responses from your five contributors on this board, too!

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