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Re: Accountability -- oldtimer#1, Friday, July 18, 12:50:58pm [1]
Strongly agree with Peacock's intial statement ( but could debate some that followed). It's the status of the Program that is key when JD's tenure is up. Even if he overachieves this year with a questionable roster it's still the status of the Program. Peacock put a good measuring stick with mid-pack MAAC as a reasonable expectation.
To Loyal's points. I agree that we need a Conley or another other major force to change expectations. Could come from the current roster but I am not overly optimistic. With regard to the AD, I can assure you that he doesn't go to bed worrying about JD and staff. He has an understaffed department to run, 19 sports to administer, budget, fundraising considerations, positions to fill, compliance, NLI's, etc. It's a big job but I believe that this guy is more than up to the task.
Think he also has a favorable opinion of JD and staff. However,this will not prevent him from doing what he has to do when the time arrives.
And yes, I agree with the extension that JD received. JD is well respected within the school and the MAAC coaching community. He also seems to have the respect of the players. He and Morton do know the game and, if you recall, decent resumes. In my view he's the right guy for a tough job in a tough environment. If you reply he hasn't proven himself you are absolutely correct. May not, and that would be a shame because IMO the guy has what it takes.
Winning solves all problems and losing is always second guessed. That's the story of the profession as well as many of the posts on this Board. Just a fact of life,
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Re: Accountability -- Nick, Friday, July 18, 10:24:31pm [1]
Coach will not win if he does a poor job,even if he has talent. Wins do not just happen, as your post infers, because we or he or everyone wants it to be. Its a vicious cycle SPC is in and I believe it will take a very good head coach to break it.. Perhaps Dunne is the right guy and then again maybe not..I would think he will need to win more than 10 games this season to have any credibility..IMHO.
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Re: Accountability -- loyal, Friday, July 18, 11:00:51am [1]
Fair enough.
Two year extension was unnecessary; if any, one max was more than enough. Let's hope new AD makes shrewder decisions going forward.
Unless Conley turns out to be a significant inside force, it will be VERY tough to succeed with this roster. Let's see; we all want it to happen.
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Re: Accountability -- Jack Ryan, Friday, July 18, 04:38:42pm [1]
The extension does a few things. It takes pressure off of the coach and the new AD and allows both to concentrate on their respective job's-at-hand.W-L only seems to be an issue with men's basketball. There was one coach who won
only one game in three seasons. Never saw one word about that posted on this board.
It also gives the college more time to make the upgrades that will make SPC more attractive to recruits. And, as each year passes the college has gradually been raising its standards for admission. That equates to smarter, more diciplined student atheletes.
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You can present some of -- SPC02, Friday, July 18, 05:23:25pm [1]
dumbest rationalizations around. Basketball is the signature sport and if you have not noticed SPC comes in last in the Commissioner’s Standings year in and year out. People have complained about the state of the athletics for a long time and the fact that a coach with one win in three years is testament to that, and not germane to any discussion on Dunne.
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Re: Accountability -- Jack Ryan, Saturday, July 19, 02:41:19pm [1]
What is your point? Besides calling me dumb? I've been called worse. My point was to make the college a better place for everyone, including all of the athletic teams, not just men's basketball. And, since when have we become accountable to the Commissioner? If the college does not meet his high standards, I doubt the shortcomings fall soley on the shoulders of John Dunne.
When the quality of our lives becomes dependent on the W-L record of a basketball team we are in serious trouble.
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Playing Devil's Advocate -- SPC '91, Saturday, July 19, 03:34:22pm [1]
If Dunne cannot have a productive season this year, maybe some strong consideration needs to be taken by the new AD re: a replacement.
Does anyone think that Ted Fiore may consider coming back to the old U.? Can't argue against results and Teddy has produced even at MSU? Remember that all the bad blood that led to his departure is no longer at SPC.
Maybe I'm just a little crazy but losing this much will do to people.
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Re: Playing Devil's Advocate -- NickD, Saturday, July 19, 10:16:46pm [1]
You are a lot crazy with that nonsense.
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