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Date Posted: Sun, May 17 2020, 19:26:31
Author: Roc Griff
Subject: Troubling Rumor

I hate to post this here because I feel like there's no way this is true, but heard a troubling rumor our status in the MAAC and D1 in general might not be guaranteed for the 2020-2021 season.

Please tell me this is just misinformation.

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[> Re: Troubling Rumor -- Griff, Mon, May 18 2020, 7:12:26

Heard a rumor from who? Highly doubtful this has any merit whatsoever.

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[> [> Re: Troubling Rumor -- Things will most likely will change, Mon, May 18 2020, 8:13:37

Can't see us keeping all of the sports. Something will get trimmed.

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[> Re: Troubling Rumor -- Go_Griffs, Mon, May 18 2020, 11:50:52

I have not heard that rumor, but I'd be shocked it more programs across athletics are not impacted. Look at the news out of Furman today: https://www.thestate.com/sports/college/article242819861.html

That said, I would think basketball would be among the final cuts, it would make sense to reclassify if it saves the school money.

Perhaps the plan could be to follow the RIT model and maintain a D1 hockey team and downgrade all other sports to D3/non-scholarship. Not sure if that would require launching a women's ice hockey team in order to abide by Title IX standards.

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[> [> Re: Troubling Rumor -- Griff, Mon, May 18 2020, 13:11:49

I'd much rather maintain D1 basketball and downgrade hockey.

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[> [> [> Re: Troubling Rumor -- Go_Griffs, Mon, May 18 2020, 14:52:02

Agreed, but not sure what NCAA rules will allow. I have never seen a school just maintain basketball at the D1 level and all other sports D3, but we are in a new landscape here.

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[> [> [> [> Furman -- Take a look, Mon, May 18 2020, 17:53:34

The school is about the same size as us. Their endowment is also 7 times our size.

https://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/sports/2020/05/18/furman-university-cut-baseball-mens-lacrosse-programs/5216396002/

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[> [> [> [> Re: Troubling Rumor -- D, Tue, May 19 2020, 8:44:59

I could be wrong, but I think the 'basic' rule is...
if you have DI basketball OR Football, all other sports have to be DI as well.

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: Troubling Rumor -- Go_Griffs, Tue, May 19 2020, 14:30:26

Not sure what the rules are, but there are a handful of schools that have D1 hockey and are DIII for all other sports. If CC decides to go D3, I would hope they at least maintain hockey as D1.

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[> Re: Troubling Rumor -- Go_Griffs, Tue, May 19 2020, 5:41:48

Three part question for the group:

If CC had to cut programs, what would you keep?

If CC dropped to DII or DIII, what would that do for your support and passion for the athletic programs?

If hockey ended up being the only D1 program at CC, would you go all in on support for that team?

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[> [> Re: Troubling Rumor -- Griff, Tue, May 19 2020, 5:44:37

Basketball
I would have no interest in D2 or D3
No

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[> [> [> Re: Troubling Rumor -- Go_Griffs, Tue, May 19 2020, 6:09:35

Ideally, I'd like for them to keep M+W hoops, hockey and one other women's sport. The rest can declassify to D3 to save money.

That said, if CC becomes a hockey only school - so be it. Go ALL IN - invest a bit more in the program, try to get Canisius at the highest level of college hockey. We're in the market for it. I'd be down with that.

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[> [> [> [> Re: Troubling Rumor -- GoldenGriff32, Tue, May 19 2020, 12:57:14

You can't be dividing teams up between D1 and D3, NCAA wont allow it.

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[> [> [> [> Let’s think positive -- Vision, Tue, May 19 2020, 14:33:29

For far too long we allowed our presence to dwindle in sports. Father Demske & Cooke could have done a better job of funding Koessler, and the coaches. At one point we had a 10 year jump on Siena and many of the MAAC schools. Now we sit somewhere in the middle. We’re on a slippery slope here and we need to manage the short & long term. Don’t drop to D3 on the other sports fund your premier sports correctly in D1. That means go after the best young coaches and develop a culture of why not us. Think bigger. Canisius is a brand and sports can help to build it. Bona has done a great job and Niagara has stepped it up in hoop. Go Griffs’

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