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Date Posted: Wed, August 12 2020, 1:46:17
Author: Gary (😢)
Subject: Griffs Football

In hindsight I wish we could have kept the football team. I know we had a hard time competing towards the end but we could have improved. Also that's about 50 student athletes coming here every year. Good for freshman enrollment.

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[> Re: Griffs Football -- Go_Griffs, Wed, August 12 2020, 6:44:01

Yeah, would've been cool to keep it going, especially if they fell into some good seasons - but no chance it would've survived this pandemic unless the program was dominant for years.

Our best course for success is to invest more in basketball and hope that hockey improves.

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[> [> Re: Griffs Football -- Glory Days, Wed, August 12 2020, 11:27:44

The glory days of Griffs football in the mid-80's led by Mike Panepinto, Glenn Taplin and Anthony Gullo.

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[> [> [> Re: Griffs Football -- K.Griffy, Wed, August 12 2020, 12:33:23

Panepinto and Taplin I certainly remember. Mike later played for the Bills "strike team" in 1987. Taplin was a heck of an athlete - and probably could have been at least a walk-on hoops player at Canisius. And if memory serves, Glenn had an audition with the New York Football Giants after his playing days as a Griff. Gullo I don't recall.

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[> [> [> [> Re: Griffs Football -- Griff, Wed, August 12 2020, 12:41:53

Gullo was a D-Lineman from Jamestown.

I used to play pick up with Taplin at the KAC. In high school, I played against Keith Robinson (Notre Dame), Rob Ferguson/Lanier (Bonaventure) and Norm Echols from Sweet Home who was an absolute beast. Taplin was every bit of a D-1 player. I thought he played basketball at ECC before coming to Canisius to play football.

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: Griffs Football -- Gary, Wed, August 12 2020, 13:53:52

One of the CC football players (Mark?) was so big when he dislocated his shoulder I couldn't fit him in the police car to get him to Sisters Hospital. Had to call a shuttle bus. He went on to play for the NY Giants. Another tough guy #75 Defensive line Bill Maher.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Griffs Football -- Greg, Wed, August 12 2020, 17:09:42

I am a football alumni. Since they dropped the sport I have refused to give a penny to the College. My feelings will remain that way until the day I die.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Griffs Football -- Grammar Police, Wed, August 12 2020, 19:08:06

You are an "alumnus". Ugh. Pet peeve.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Griffs Football -- Greg, Thu, August 13 2020, 13:09:49

Spare me your BS! If you didn’t play football I don’t care what you think

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Griffs Football -- Grammar Police, Thu, August 13 2020, 18:53:51

It's BS to think that an apparent college graduate - a Canisius College graduate no less - knows the difference between alumni and alumnus? Because I didn't play football lol? Oh my goodness.

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: Griffs Football -- Glory Days, Wed, August 12 2020, 15:18:16

Panepinto was obviously too small and Taplin just a bit too slow. Gullo anchored the D-Line and had the best shot as a pro. He was dominant. In today's NFL he would have been the prototypical 1 technique.

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[> [> Re: Griffs Football -- Texas Griff, Wed, August 19 2020, 10:17:25

How much does football cost as a program?

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[> [> [> Re: Griffs Football -- It was the most expensive sport, Wed, August 19 2020, 16:45:51

Hockey is second.

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[> The reason we haven’t cut sports -- ACG, Wed, August 12 2020, 13:20:25

It has helped with enrollment. Not sure we will keep all of them down the road after COVID. I would have loved to see us keep football. Wish Glenn’s kid chose CC over Tulsa.

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[> Re: Griffs Football -- CanMan, Thu, August 13 2020, 3:51:20

Dropping football was a bitter moment for a lot of us who wore the blue&gold. The irony is the program had the right coach and an influx of new players we were all excited to see play before it was dropped. Lots of former players have done well, they don't donate and have distanced themselves from the school.

We tried to explain all of this and were given the middle finger by the AD from Alaska. The school didn't burn the bridge they napalmed it.

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[> [> Re: Griffs Football -- BfloGriff, Thu, August 13 2020, 12:45:13

I'd forgotten about that guy. I understand he was the kind of guy who shouldn't have been hired in the first place. But maybe if the "right guy" had been hired, the outcome may have been the same, although better handled. That clearly cost the College in the long run, perhaps especially right now. All the Powers That Be can do now is suck it up, dig in and get CC back on track to where she should be "if only---". St.Peter (Canisius, that is) pray for us. Maybe one day we'll be with some other Jesuit colleges/universities in basketball and even playing football once again.

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[> [> Re: Griffs Football -- Greg, Thu, August 13 2020, 13:14:29

Well said, thank you!

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[> [> Re: Griffs Football -- Let go of the grudge, life is too short., Thu, August 13 2020, 15:09:31

Our current AD played football. Tim Dillon made a mistake; he was new a AD and didn't have a grasp of the culture at CC. You're correct, he used a hammer on lots of things to create change. He was also hired to drive change, in retrospect he could have taken a different approach when it came to football. Give it, school more than ever needs your support.

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[> [> Re: Griffs Football -- CanMan, Fri, August 14 2020, 3:58:38

I appreciate the difficulty the school is in and in a small way contribute annually. Though it could be much more. I can get over dropping football. Whathe continues to drive me away is the lack of any contact with the school and out of state alumni. My wife went to SBU and how she stays connected to that place is heat warming. Or should I say how they stay connected to her.

It's not just me, I've met several alums at Bills Backers events who also have no connection with the school. And now that they need us the feeling is forget you.

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[> [> [> Re: Griffs Football -- BfloGriff, Fri, August 14 2020, 6:57:05

The Powers That Be need to pay attention to these recent posts.

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[> [> [> Re: Griffs Football -- Bullseye!, Fri, August 14 2020, 8:44:38

It was never like this until the last 10 years or so. The alumni office isn’t staffed the way it should be. Bona does a great job as well as Siena. I hope that they wake up, love the school got a great education but they need to step up their game. The high school does a better job of staying connected to their alums. St. Peter pray for us. Go Griffs!

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[> [> [> [> Re: Griffs Football -- BfloGriff, Sun, August 16 2020, 6:20:23

Take a look at the "Another Voice" piece in the "Viewpoints" section of the Buffalo News today, 8/16.

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[> Re: Griffs Football -- Linwood Larry, Thu, August 13 2020, 12:02:37

Man, I miss those Saturday football games! I didn't latch onto them until the 90s but once I did, I was hooked. It was a great atmosphere and I was sure not happy when they dropped it!

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[> [> Re: Griffs Football -- Cager, Fri, August 14 2020, 8:49:17

Put the blame on the NCAA, that ruled that since Canisius played D1 basketball, all sports had to play at that level.The best football at CC was at the D3 level, and it was really good football. I remember going to games at Alfred, Rochester, Cortland, Brockport just to mention a few, and the games vs Buff State, and UB were something else. After the games at the Demske, we would all go to the Locker Room for a few beers, and watch Notre Dame on TV. Coach Tom Hersey, and Tucker Reddington put together some great teams. Too bad this happened, and Fr. Cooke had to cut the program, and take the heat.Great memories!!!

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[> [> Re: Griffs Football -- D, Mon, August 17 2020, 4:01:03

Many thoughts on this.....

I played during the mid-late 80's with those guys mentioned, plus many more great ones. Doc, McCarthy, Flowers, O'Brien, Holohan, Salter, Leavell. Some great memories. Practice humor, Locker room shenanigans, road trips and post game parties. we still laugh A LOT when we get together.

It was very disappointing when they announced they were dropping football. We all asked, "if you needed more $, why not come to us?" We were and probably still are the largest group of alumni at Canisius. colleges do all sorts of fund raising for many different reasons. Cooke's decision was final. He didn't want to hear one word from us.

The decision for the league to DI NON SCHOLARSHIP was the big mistake. Canisius and only a couple of other teams wanted to offer some scholarship money. League said no. Big mistake as history has proven that those leagues all failed. (one remains - Pioneer). Going non scholarship meant that Canisius would still be recruiting for the same kids as UB and Buff St. UB just went DI-AA and Buff State was still DIII. Canisius was always seen and the expensive school in Buffalo. Canisius basically turned itself into a pay to play school.

Dillon was a hired PR man. All he cared about was hockey.

I'm still not happy about the decision. But, I still loved my time at Canisius. My closest friends that I keep in touch with are from 2001 Main Street. My niece was a successful student athlete and my son is a current successful student athlete. Hoping to have a lacrosse season.

Canisius in general and Canisius athletics is relatively unknown outside of Buffalo. Growing up and still living in Rochester... always had to say and still do say, " Canisius college in Buffalo" to anyone that asks where I went or my son goes. That to me is a big miss by all departments at Canisius. ESPECIALLY ATHLETICS. There used to be some billboards once in a while along 490 (Where leaders are made campaign). but haven't seen anything since. It's rather embarrassing to say the least that you have to add "in Buffalo" every time. There should be MULTIPLE athletes on every team with Rochester representation. There are great men's and women's HS hoops, lacrosse, baseball, hockey, softball, soccer. Every Canisius team should have a good percentage of Section V players on it. I seriously don't get it. With Section V kids on roster, I guarantee there will be more fans in the seats.
and maybe then, we won't have to say "Canisius in Buffalo"

Nobody has to say "LeMoyne in Syracuse"......

Peace

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[> [> [> Re: Griffs Football -- Well said, Tue, August 18 2020, 15:22:13

Dillon wasn’t a great fit from the beginning. You can’t change the past but we can influence the future. Bill Maher is a good AD and he is always willing to listen. Let’s hope the school can turn the corner and get on the right side of the ledger. As far as building the awareness in Rochester it’s been a miss for years. At the end of the day we need more kids from outside the 716, & WNY. Go Griffs!

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[> [> [> [> Re: Griffs Football -- CNY Griff, Wed, August 19 2020, 6:39:45

In the late 90’s and early 2000‘s , the college used local, part-time admissions recruiters who were very good at connecting with local school counselors, students and families, and also involved local alums.
Can’t understand why they discontinued that.

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