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Date Posted:05:00:55 10/22/02 Tue Author: Laura Author Host/IP: dialup-65.59.8.164.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net / 65.59.8.164 Subject: Laura, Moi, jealous? (sarcasm alert)(offensive material with in) In reply to:
Ivy Blossom
's message, "Re: Cassandra Claire" on 10:47:26 10/13/02 Sun
Me? Jealous?
Perish tht thought from your cdute little head :) Obviously, you don't know me well enough to make that accusation because if you did, you'd know it was nothing but well, it was a good laugh. In fact, I read your note, shared it with my aquaintences, laughed some more, laughed again, chuckled. Oh, how sad and pathetic I am. Truely. But that's OKAY. I can have your note as my form of daily entertainment. (It was just as entertaining as some FA.Orger accusing me of anti-semitism. That like wise was funny. That is digressing though.)
Hello. My name is Laura Hale and there is one thing I pride myself above all other things: I am boring. With out a doubt, truely boring. I don't smoke. I don't do drugs. I don't have casual sex. I rarely drink and never to excess. I'm highly moralistic and ethical in my own way. I'm comfortable with all this. It makes me who I am and it makes me happy. (But if I was mean, or heck, if I wasn't so sure based on the accusation of jealous, I'd say that you're not comfortable with yourself that you feel a need to make that accusation. But you know, I'm not quite that mean or quite that petty to take shots at you like that. Really I'm not.)
Where was I? I'm a writer. I sit down at the keyboard and crank out reams and reams of material, mostly non-fiction. What I write is my own material; what I don't write is quoted and properly cited because to do so would violate my own personal standards of ethics. Ethics in writing are important to me. They very much are :) Hence, my web site http://www.fandomination.net/ has a "Statement of Ethics" built into it that I uphold.
(I'm not saying that FictionAlley.Org doesn't but I mean, after all, I did write 75% of their Terms of Service so they must have similar ethics to me no? Oh my, if I was petty and rude, I might say with some malice that they are nothing but plagiarist through and through ;-) but see, I'm not that petty. Stealing almost word for word from FanFiction.Net's Terms of Service and ha ha ha! having plagiarized material on their Terms of Service... well, that isn't an ethical issue for me to play with. It just amuses my own personal set of ethics. Really, it does. :) Amusement. And anyway, I'm not saying they don't have ethics. They do. Really they do. They just don't mesh with my own which is good because we're different.)
But anyway, back to the really important issue... me. Right. From what I understand from other people, Cassie is fat and ugly. This is what I've been told. I have no proof of this. I heard that some of her friends (oh this is petty but this is what I've been told) that she hangs out and writes with are fat and ugly too. I'm... well, call me good lucking and cute and happy and boucy and egotistical as all get out. As such, well you might say I don't have any ugly friends. I just can't. My ego gets in the way of that. If you're good looking and attractive like me, you only want good looking and attractive friends. My two best female friends are gorgeous and neither one is fat. They are skinny and normally proportioned and well, if I swung that way, I'd date them. I have one friend who would qualify as fat. It doesn't matter there either though (because see! I don't discriminate against fat people, really I don't) because she like wise is a babe. Most of my aquaintence are good looking to. I chat with them and have discussions and I can tell they are good looking people. When I see pictures of them later I smirk to myself, so full of my own ego, knowing they are good looking people. It's nice to have things validated like that. I also have mostly guy friends too. (There is something about women. Most of the women I've discussed this with agree too. Women are mostly like to do nasty things behind your back, send e-mails to innocent people complaining or slamming the other through a third party rather than slam them up front. That's okay. We all do that, your friends and my friends. But we're women so that's between women.) I'd say 75% of my closests friends were male. All good looking too. Did I mention that I heard Cassandra Claire was ugly? Phew. Well, good for you that you're a far better person that me! :) I certainly couldn't have an ugly friend but if you can, I only wish I was that way. (No really, I don't but it does seemingly make you the better, more tolerant person.)
I also generally have problems attacking others on turf that isn't there own. I mean, you don't see me wandering over to FictionAlley.Org with me and my posse (who generally don't give two shits about any of this and bop me on the head and go "Hale you moron!" and then I smile and shake my head and otherwise confirm that.) and say "Do you know that CASSANDRA CLAIRE IS A RAGING PLAGIARIST!?!?!?!" No, that would be rude. (But ethically, that must be okay with FictionAlley.Org members as some of them have done that to FanDomination.Net. I didn't realize OMG I AM GOING TO MAKE THAT NASTY ALLEGATION that you guys were that threatened by LITTLE OLD ME? all by my lonesone me? Just cute little highly intelligent egotistical Laura who generally goes out of her way to avoid you? Wow. I'm thrilled. I'm honored. My god, I could cry from the joy!)
Anyway, if you really knew me, you'd realize I was a raging introvert who HATES HATES HATES feedback. Fame would confuse the hell out of me. It would also scare me shitless. If you think I want the attention that CC has, well missed your mark ;) I shudder and quake in fear and annoyance when I get positive feedback on anything I've written. I shudder and quake in fear when I get constructive feedback. Hell, I might in my more morose moments CRY! When I get flames, I sit and I hit the delete button and pretend it never happened. Can't take it. :) And you think I am jealous of CC? God, I'm the least likely feedback slut you're ever to see. Recognition is okay but only if I think I deserve it and my standards are so high, that isn't likely to happen. Being a plagiarist seeking recongition is so far from who I am that well...
... that you intimate I'm jealous at all leaves me rolling on the ground.
Thanks for that though. IT was worth it.
Later, this post will be deleted after I acknowledge my own lack of grevious stupidity and my social introversion and embarrassment smack at me.
Geez, no wonder why you had deleted these before. I can see why. Virtual mudslinging is not ok but facts about a person that happen to be true and a load of people know about them are definitly ok.
I do not like, repeat DO NOT LIKE, treating people badly on the Internet because of several reasons.
1) I know that you can't see the person and therefore it's easy to taunt them and flame them. The person has feelings. The HPFGU people do not take this in account and therefore they try to drive people out by accusing people of things that aren't true. For example, I was accused of hacking twice when in fact I didn't do these hacking indicents. When I IMed people I knew from the club and got no response I thought I'd go in the chatroom to see why no one was responding and I really got flamed out of there for the hacking accusation.
When I got flamed I got death threats, threats to get me kicked out of university, my mailbox was loaded with "I hate you" messages, and to dig deeper than the earth's molten crust, they even e-mailed my parents threats as well. Cassandra Claire herself threatened to call my parents as well through an IM, I had to change my IM as a result because who knows they, with their special tracking software that they have, could be tracking my e-mails. Not to mention my mail, not regular e-mail, REAL mail, was stolen. I had to tell a website designer friend to take my University address off the web because my mail was disappearing faster than Harry Potter covering himself with the Invisibility Cloak. Cassandra Claire and her friends have no integrity at all, why do you even bother defending her?
The outcome of this: they almost made right to their threat to kick me out of university, this made me very upset. To those who are university students, when you're a very good student, you work your ass off to graduate and to get a degree. I was starting over a new leaf (I had battled depression and failed my first try at University and they gave me a second chance) and I was so pleased about being back and very dismayed when their suit threatened my chances at University.
They are very vengeful people, they may seem friendly and approaching at first, same for Cassandra Claire. Don't believe what they say about people like me, I'm just a 21-year-old who's just trying to get through her college years without a hitch. I can't meet other HP fans because there's like 5,000 HPFGU members and who knows the HP fan I meet is a HPFGU member and some of them are led to believe that I'm the devil.
From what you have heard in this, you would think I murdered someone or did a extremely serious crime involving drug dealing. It was a hacking of a free account in which Yahoo stated to my University that they get reports of hacking everyday and this case finally made them redo their account systems. My university is not free, the holiday cards my parents sent me that were stolen were not free, even the great lawyer that got me out of the suit definitly wasn't free . The accuser never lost any money in this case and I lost thousands. I wish they could pay me back for almost ruining my life but it's really not the effort. I wish we could just be cordial online, I think with the fact that so many people use the internet these days it's better to be friendly. I want to be friendly with people who like the same things as I do but that cannot always be possible.
2) It's wrong to of course flame someone mindlessly, for example "I HATE YOUR F***ING WORK! YOU SHOULD GET OUT!" but it's another story to brag about your stalkers. Laura you know about this, Cassie and company brag about stalkers and giggle and some of her fans even WISH they had stalkers.
One, this makes absolutely no sense. I'd be shit scared if someone even threatened to stalk me, and I was definitely scared when they threatened me and what they did as a result was illegal and wrong. Even some of them knew I was going overseas for school, before I was kicked out, and they bragged about trying to bait me. Even if it's supposed to be a joke, just don't post it on a public board where everyone can see it.
One thing they do go overboard with, and this has been mentioned several times, is that our dearest Cassandra Claire has threatened to call people who even make a criticism about her.
And finally, why are you even trying to defend people like this, CC lovers? They're rotten, they seem popular, and I think I really know your real agenda, you just want to get in their special group. "Oh Sinead wrote something nasty about you on this website" I don't give a **** about that. it's called an OPINION, and on HPFGU they don't even respect your own opinion. Your opinion must match their opinion of things. Like if Cassie says Elves Suck, you must say Elves suck as well. You have no opinion whatsoever, you've become Cassandra Claire. I wouldn't want to be friends with a hundred Cassandra Claires because they have no individuality.
On the jealousy argument, I'm not jealous. I don't want that fame, I don't want to be the one that's so excited about being stalked, I don't want to be the one that has people who aren't her real friends because I'm "famous". I write but I most certainly do not use other people's work to make my writing more complete. Overall, I do not want to be Cassandra Claire who actually went to Columbia to get her writing degree. Yes, this is analogous to George W. Bush going to Yale. You can't blame Columbia, every university, the great ones in fact, get the bad apples all the time.
Signed by a real person with real feelings, with real friends,
