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Date Posted: 07/31/01 22:42:00
Author: Waris
Subject: Jawap

Essalam tordashlar,

(Bu ishning netijisini �lan qilishning k�chikip ketkenlikidin epu soraymen)

M�ningche hemminglar Mirsultan ependi bilen bolghan munazirining jawabini bilmekchighu deymen. Undaq bolsa t�wendikini toluq oqup chiqinglar.

(1) Men aldi bilen 56,294 herp belge bar istatistikini k�rsettim. Uning ichide 8985 s�z bolup �(�yiq) ning sani 994, e(eynek) 3204. Undin sirt ikkimiz(Mirsultan ependi we men), ikkisining pirsentini h�sablap e(eynek) ning ishlitilishi ottura h�sab bilen 5% ikenlikini, �(�yiq) ning 1.7 ikenlikini t�pip chiqtuq. Hem eng axirida e ning chastotisining � ningkidin 3 hesse etrapida yuquriy ikenlikini tonup yettuq.
(2) Undin k�yin men tordashlarning pikirlirini k�rsettim. Mirsultan epedni Abdur�him, Alim, Erdem ... qatarliq kishilerning salahitinimu soridi hem etrapliq mulahizisini k�r�p, x�li tepsili pikir bergenlikini medihlidi. Hem shundaqla bezi tordashlarning tilshunasliq qa'idisige ch�shmeydighan we bashqa bolmighur pikirlirige rediye berdi.
(3) Asasliq nime dimekchi bolghanliqimizni tordashlarning k�nishi, e,� larning chastotisi we � ni ishlitish jehettiki qolaysizliqlarni misalgha �lip toluq ch�shend�rd�m. Andin, Mirsultan ependi ikki terep ottursida toluq ch�shenche hasil bolghanliqini mueyyenlesht�rdi. (Mirsultan epedi axirida t�xi "Uyaqqa tartsa at �lidu, bu yaqqa tartsa oq sunidu..." d�gen maqal temsilni �lip k�l�p ketti.)
(4) Mirsultan ependi tilshunasliq jehette e(eynek) ni � dep �lishning eng toghra, eng ilmiy, xelq'aradimu �trap qilidighan danaliq ikenlikini qayta sherhilidi. Bu jeryanda xelq'arada ortaq ishlitidighan til arqa sozuq tawushlirining �stige ikki ch�kit qoyup, til aldigha y�qinlashturudighan qa'idini s�zlep �tti we tepsili tonushturdi.( K�pchilikningmu buni ch�shinishi k�reklikin alahide tekitlidi) Undin k�yin, Amerika, Yaponiye, T�rkiye, Rosiye, Engliye lik t�rkiloglarning Uyghur tili torghrisidiki tetqiqat mat�ryallirini we Uyghur tilini transkripsiye qilishta ishletken nurghun(Manga kem d�gendimu 20 nechche tom kitabni k�rsetti) mat�ryallirini k�rsetti. Shundaqla e(eynek) ni � dep almisaq xelq'ara qa'ididin bek chetnep ketidighanliqimizni qayta-qayta tekitlidi.
(5) Qayta-qayta munazire arqiliq (men T�rkleni, Azirilarni... misalgha aldim ), Mirsultan ependi, e(eynek) ni e dep alghan teqdirdimu �(�yiq) �ch�n � ni �lishqa bolmaydighanliqini, �(�yiq --- solgha yantu) yaki �(�yiq ---onggha yantu) d�gendek alsa yaxshiraq bolidighanliqini tekitlidi. Diqqet: L�kin, e(eynek) ni e dep alsaq bolidu dep ening ipade bild�rmidi. Buni qayta mutixesisler gorupisi teshkillep b�kitish k�reklikini tewsiye qildi.
(6) Axirida men �(�yiq) ningmu [e] (B�rtaniye Englizchisidiki "Water" ning axirdiki /er/ yeni [e] dep)deprek teleppuz qilinidighanliqini(ros tilidin bashqa tilda), hem uning shekil jehettinmu �,� lar bilen birdeklikni saqlap y�ziqning g�zellikige paydiliq ikenlikini otturgha qoydum. Buningghimu Mirsultan ependi qayil bolghandek qildi, l�kin "yenila mutixesisler gorupisi bir nime disun, mining d�ginimla hesab emes..." DIDI.
(7) Eng axirida Mirsultan ependi, tordashlardin �z ara ch�shinishni, Uyghur tilining fonit�kiliq qa'idilige h�rmet qilishni ... tekitlep,tardashlargha rehmet eytti.

T�gidi (Yuqarqilar p�t�nley eynen ehwal)

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Mining sh�xs�n UKY ilmiyliki toghrisidiki ch�sh�nch�m mundaq:

(1) � ni � d�p ipadil�sh tilshunasliq qa'idisig� w� yeziq layih�l�sh qa'idisig� h�m x�lq'ara qa'idil�rg� intayin Uyghun. Bumu k�z yumushqa bolmaydighan pakit. (Tilshunaslar q�t'iy mushuni qollaydu)

(2) � ni e d�p elish kompyuterda kirg�z�shk� asan bolush, eghiz tiligha yeqin bolush(h�qiq�t�n men, qelem d�p s�zl�ydighanlar bar), chastotisi yuquri bolush deg�nd�k artuqchliqi bil�n kompyuterchilarning zor k�ch bil�n qollishigha erishishi �m�liy�t.

Hazirqi m�rkizi m�sil�, qandaq qilip tilshunaslar bil�n kompyuterchilar(~shunaslar) ni bir-birig� baghlash, �z-ara ch�sh�nch� hasil qilish.

Xosh, nim� �ch�m Uyghur Kompyuter Yeziqi otturgha chiqip qaldi? Bu h�mmimizg� intayin eniq, shunga s�zl�p olturmay. Biz kompyuterni ishlirimizgha qolayliq elip kelidu d�p ishlitimiz, amal bar awarichiliqtin qachimiz, az �mg�k qilip jiqraq �n�mg� erishishni oylaymiz.
Shunga biz kompyuterchlargha nisb�t�n ilmiylik deg�n soz ishlitishk� asan bolush yaki bolmasliqta �z ipadisini tapidu. M�sil�n: Dos m�shghulat sitemisi bil�n Windows ni selishturghanda, Windows Dos tin k�p ilmiyd�k korinidu. S�w�bi Windows ning qolayliq bolghanliqida.
Kompyuterchilar qolaysiz bolghan hechqandaq n�rsini qobul qilalmaydu, bunisi h�mmimizg� eniq. Biz UKY layih�sid� amalning barich� h�r ikki sah�diki ilmiyliqqa h�rm�t qilip k�lduq, lekin � ning ch�stotisining yuquri bolishi, kirg�z�shning bir az �psizliki t�p�ylidin, � ni e d�p elish bizg� nisb�t�n �ng ilmiy. Hazirqi m�sil� p�q�t qaysisini talliwelish.

UKY ni birlikk� k�lt�r�sh yeziq �zg�rtish �m�s shunga, tilshunasliq j�h�ttiki ilmiylik ikkil�mchi orunda turidu. Kona yeziq nurghun ishlarda asasi orunda turidu. Til-t�tqiqat ishliri qatarliq ishlar kona yeziqta elip berilidu. Roman, powstlar kona yeziqta kitab bolup chiqidu... Shunga UKY ning ishlitish da'irisining ch�klimiliki t�p�ylidin kompyuterni birl�mchi orungha qoyup � ni e(eynek) d�p, e(eyiq) ni � d�p alsaq bolidu. Chunki buni kompyuter ishlitidighanlar qobul qilalaydu.

Shundaq bolghanda kompyuterdiki �m�liy�t tilshunasliqtiki qa'idil�rni besip ch�sh�p bizg� qolayliq shara'it elip kelidu. Abdurehim �p�ndi eytqand�k, �zbek, �z�rb�yjan, Q�rghiz ... larning t�jirb� sawaqlirini qobul qilishqa bolidu.

Hulas�: M�n sh�xsi namimdin(Profisor Hoshur Islam mu e(eynek) dep �lishni qollaydighanliqini bild�rgen) � ni e d�p elishni qollaym�n(hem emdi uni ishlitishni bashlaymen). L�kin yenila �(�yiq) ni � dep �lishta ching turimen, �(�yiq) dep �lishqa qarshi turimen.

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K�pchiliktin �mid qilidighinim, biz hemmimiz birliship e(eyenk), �(�yiq) dep �lip, BASHQA �ZGERTISH KIRG�ZMEY ishlitiwersek. Y�ziq munazirisi mushu yerde toxtisa, mana mushuni "eng axirqi birlik" jakarlisaq.

(Chunki yene bir q�tim mutixesisler gorupisining qachan yighilidighanliqini xuda �zi bilidu)

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Axirghiche oqughanliqingizgha rehmet.

Waris Abdukerim

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