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Date Posted: 07/25/01 17:54:47
Author: Arslan
Subject: Re: Ä ni f däp alayli!  
In reply to: Parhat 's message, "Ä ni f däp alayli!  " on 07/25/01 17:53:45

<<<Ägär chastotini asas qilsaq UKY mundaq bolsa äng yäxshi bolidu.>>>

JW:Chastinini asas qilish dikemchi emes, belki chastotinimu oylishish kerek dimekchi. Sizning diginingiz huddi "kok-tat yiyish bedenge paydiliq" dise, undaq bolsa "koktatla yep bashqa nerse yimiseng bolmamdu?" digelikke ohshap ketidu. ikki kandidat eripni orunlashturnghanda, eger bashqa pirinsiplarda ohshash orungha ige bolup lekin ishlitish chastotisi ohshash bolmisa qandaq qilisiz?! Bu pakitqa kozingizni yumuwalamsiz?

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JW:Buni kishiler alla burun otturigha qoyup bolghan, we uning kemchiliginimu sheryilep otken.


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JW: Ozingizmu tejribe qilip, netijisini elan qilsingiz bekmu hosh bolattuq.

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JW:Lughetni istatistika qilishqa bolmaydu digenlik: biz yekke soz bilen alaqilashmay, jumliler bilen alaqilishimiz. Lughette kop ishlitidighan sozler bilen kop ishletmeydighan sozlerning orni ohshash bolidu... Lekin ozara alaqilashqanda jumliler bilen alaqilishimiz. Jumliler ichide bolsa kop ishilitidighan sozler bilen kop ishletmeydighan sozlerning orni ohshash bolmaydu, mesilen "uyul" digen soz bilen "men" digen sozning ishtish chastotisi ohshash bolmaydu dimekchi, lekin lughetke ular birla yerde eniqlima berishi mumkin dimekchi. Shunga istatiska qilghanda Lughetni asas qilsaq bolmaydu-dimekchi.


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JW: Perhat, bu muzakirirehanida siz birer Milletni haqaretleydighan sozlerni qilimisingiz boluptiken. "Nurhgun Turlerning uighurning barlighinimu bilmeydu" dep aghrinipsiz, bashqa milletler bilemdiken?! Englizlarning kopinchilirimu bilmeydighu?! nimishke ularnimu qoshup tillimaysiz?! Parhat, mening semimi otidighinim: Milletlerni kemsitidighan, haretleydighan sozlerni qilishni bashlap bermisingiz boluptiken. Bashka milletlernimu (mesilen...) haqaretleydighan geplermu chiqip ish chongiyip ketidu. Bu betni koridighan kishiler Uighurlar bilenla cheklenmeydu... Biz muzakirehanini asrayili, undak yaman ishni bu yerde bashlap bermeng. Sizning mesuliyetchan bir Uighur balisi bolishingizni umud qilimen. Oylap beqing, bashqa milletler ozara munazire elip barghanda, tosattinla hichnimidin hichnime yoq Uighur millitini chishlep tartsa siz nime deysiz?! Yeziq mesilisini el qilish turk milliti bilen hichqandaq munasiwiti yoq tursa, shunga ularni chishlep tartmayli. Uning ustige ularning doliti sizdin heli yiraqta, eger ularni rastla halimisingiz ularning dolitige barmisingizla bolmidimu?!

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JW:Hata chushunup qalghandek qilisiz, bu yerde biz Englizlar yaki Turklerge choqunup Latin eripi asasidiki yeziq lahisini tuzuwatqinimiz yoq, belki peqet komputor bilen alaqilishishda qolayliq bolush uchunla qiliwatqan ishlar. Emme milletke ohshash qaraymiz, lekin Komputorda eripler teng-barawer emes, asasi rayongha Englizche 26 eripning orunlishini putun dunya etirap qilidu, tehi hichqanda milletni buni ozgerdimiz digini yoq, shunga 26 eripni asas yuquri rayondiki eriplerni qoshumche qilip erip tuzuwatimiz dewatimiz.

<<<Ä ni f däp elish>>>

JW: "xeliq" dep elishdiki sewep, 26 eripni eng unumluk paydilinish em dunyada "Rus" qatarliq bir necche milletler shundak alghanliqdin "konup ketimiz" dep amal yoq shundak qilghan. Qalghanlirni yighindi mulayiziliridin koruweling... Lekin bu amal bolmighanda andin qollinidighan ish, bundaq eripler kopiyip ketse ugenmek teslishipla qalmay, nurghun qalaymiqanchiliqlar chiqidu, shunga sizning "f" eripinimu "Ä" dep oqup adetlineyli disingiz bolmaydu. Hazir UKY layiside pekqet "x" din ibaret birla eripke shundaq imtiyaz berildi, undin bashqa eriplerge undaq imtiyaz berilmeydu. Undin bashqa "Ä ni f" dep elish hichqandaq millet undaq qollanghan emes. Lekin e ni é dep elish helkariq kaidige uighun, shunga diyilgen gep.


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JW:Birla pirinsip boyiche ish qilish kulkilik ish. Yeziq layisini tuzup chiqish murekkep mesile, nurghun tereplerdin oylash kerek, siz digendek tez kirguzushni oylash muyum amillarning birsi, yene bashqa muyim amillarmu bar:oqushqa eplik bolishi kerek; oqushta hata mene bermeslik kerek; ugunushke asan bolush; heliqning aditige hormet qilish kerek; halqaraliq kaidinimu oylash;...Bu prinsiplarni nahayiti epchillik maslashturushurup oylash intayin muyim, sizge ohshash birsiligila esiliwelip mulayize qilsa elwette kulkilik jawap chiqidu....


<<<äng axirida Turk lärgä yeqinlashmay, dunyaning aldida mengiwatqan Englizlargha yeqinlishishinglarni umid qilimän! >>>

JW: Menmu sizning logikingiz boyiche gep qilip yoyay: Englizlargha yeqinliship nime uchunla biraqla Engliz tiligha kochmeymiz? Hich bolmighanda sozlerni Englizche elip, girammatikisini ozimizning boyiche sozlisek bomidimu? Shunga bu yerde birer milletni haqaretlesh arqilik ozingizning mulayisizisini ispatlisingiz, kishiler sizge nepret oquydu. Bek heddingizdin eship ketsingiz ozingizge ish tepiwalisiz,....


Bu maqalini arslan saet 2001-07-11.03:55:01 de tehrirligen!

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