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Date Posted: 07:09:33 05/03/08 Sat
Author: Albert Parker
Subject: Re: Fate of spanish San Julian after battle Cape St. Maria
In reply to: Bob Legge 's message, "Re: Fate of spanish San Julian after battle Cape St. Maria" on 01:37:22 05/03/08 Sat

This is all still puzzling. The British sources are adamant that both ships ran aground. Syrett reports that HBMS Triumph was standing by to protect the prizes or render assistance, so she should have been in a position to see both ships run aground. It appears that at least one of the ships got off and was able to go into Cadiz. Perhaps this occurred after Triumph and the rest of the British fleet had withdrawn farther out to sea, so they did not witness it. Which ship got into Cadiz (or whether both of them did) remains obscure, at least to me. The todoababor report that San Eugenio was immediately broken up contradicts St. Hubert's statement that she was not broken up until 1804. I haven't yet gone through the rest of the war and the next war to look for service reports on San Eugenio. For what it's worth, Schomberg's list of the Spanish navy "when it joined Great Britain in the War against France" in 1793 (IV, 148) lists Eugenio, an 80 built in 1775 (the same as St. Hubert's data), as in commission. Eugenio does not appear in Toogood's index to James, Naval History, suggesting that she was not included in any of the fleets that James listed because of their involvement in active operations (this goes beyond just the 1797 St. Vincent fleet).

My best guess is still that both ships drove ashore and that Julian was wrecked but that Eugenio got off and made it into Cadiz, and that todoababor is wrong about her being broken up in 1780. My dictionary gives «desguazar» as to cut up wood. Perhaps Eugenio was partially dismantled in the process of repairing the hull damage sustained when she went aground.

On Julian, St. Hubert, working from Spanish sources, says, "Captured by the British at Cape Santa Maria, recaptured by her crew but wrecked two days later."

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