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Date Posted: 02:05:15 10/04/08 Sat
Author: Cy
Subject: Re: Capture of Trinidad, feb 17th 1797
In reply to: Albert Parker 's message, "Re: Capture of Trinidad, feb 17th 1797" on 19:49:29 10/03/08 Fri

Clowes also notes the Alfred as joining after the capture (present on 8th April when Harvey sailed), so that would explain its presence in the Spanish list.

I am more interested in the Anna (40) and the Surate which don't appear to exist. I think that the Anna is actually the Tamer (38) which had joined Harvey around the same time as the Alfred, but I can find nothing to match up with the Surate?

Cy

>Manu,
>
>What do you want to know? Clowes should be a better
>source than Fernandez Duro about the British but not
>about the Spanish. I think Fernandez Duro himself
>sometimes used Clowes as a source.
>
>Terror: There were at least two vessels with
>this name in the British navy in 1797, but the one at
>Trinidad was probably not the former Dutch hoy of 69
>tons and 4 guns. Rather, it was almost surely the
>bomb vessel of the Infernal class launched in
>1778 and sold in 1812. This class had dimensions of
>91'6"(length overall) × 74'1¾" (keel) × 27'6" (beam) ×
>12'1" (depth of hold), 298 22/94 tons burthen, armed
>with 1 × 13" mortar, 1 × 10" mortar, 8 × 6-pounders,
>12–14 swivel guns. (Lyon, Sailing Navy List,
>99). Winfield (British Warships, 1793–1817,
>372) calls this Terror a member of the
>Ætna class but gives the same dimensions and
>armament. He places her "In 3.1696 under Cmdr.
>Duknbar Douglas, for Leeward islands; in Rear-Adm.
>Henry Harvey's squadron at Trinidad 2.1797; in 3.1797
>under Cmdr. Joseph Westbeach." She must not have
>stayed long at Trinidad because she participated in an
>attack on Cadiz in July 1797. There is no mention in
>either source of her ever being a fire ship.

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