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Date Posted: 17:51:33 10/14/08 Tue
Author: Albert Parker
Subject: Re: British Trinidad Expedition, 1797
In reply to: ManuBlasco 's message, "Re: British Trinidad Expedition, 1797" on 14:16:34 10/14/08 Tue

>Robert Legge had sent me the london gazette with the
>description of the action and same clarifying
>things...but I dont know what will think about the
>source Albert :)
>
Is the whole Gazette available on line somewhere?

> >href="http://3decks.pbwiki.com/f/London%20Gazette%20179
>7-03-27.pdf">http://3decks.pbwiki.com/f/London%20Gazett
>e%201797-03-27.pdf
>
The inventory of what they captured was interesting. Harvey's dispatch did not name the transports because he was reporting to the Admiralty, not the Transport Board.

>By the way, the total sailors from Apocada's fleet
>were 1,032, 91 officers and 581 marines...looks like
>were enought for the ships, but far to be completed.
>
>I will look for the spanish reglament but if i recall,
>should be about 450 men for a 74.
>
That's a pretty light crew for a 74, although the Spanish did not need as many men to work the guns as the British did (because 24's don't need as many men as 32's). But 3 × 450 for the 74's, 600 for the 80, and 350 for the 64 would be 2,300, so they were at least 25% short unless the 1,032 is seamen and there were other unskilled crew members not counted but who could still heave on a gun tackle.

>Regards
>
>P.S. Albert, the spanish used the french pound for
>naval artillery from 1740's on...

Yes, but the French had 36-pounders (39 English pounds) on their 74's, while the Spanish only had 24-pounders. Even though those fired shot weighing nearly 26 English pounds, they were still lighter than the 32-pounders on British 74's. Spanish 18's were about 19½-pounders in English measurement, but their 8-pounders did not fire shot any heavier than English 9-pounders. Comparison of broadside weights (without carronades):
English common-class 74--14 × 32, 14 × 18, 9 × 9 = 781 pounds
Spanish 74--14 × 24, 14 × 18, 9 × 8 = 713 English pounds

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