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Date Posted: 18:10:25 10/14/08 Tue
Author: Ken Kellow
Subject: Re: British Trinidad Expedition, 1797
In reply to: Albert Parker 's message, "Re: British Trinidad Expedition, 1797" on 17:51:33 10/14/08 Tue

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>>Robert Legge had sent me the london gazette with the
>>description of the action and same clarifying
>>things...but I dont know what will think about the
>>source Albert :)
>>
>Is the whole Gazette available on line somewhere?
>
>> >>href="http://3decks.pbwiki.com/f/London%20Gazette%2017
>9
>>7-03-27.pdf">http://3decks.pbwiki.com/f/London%20Gazet
>t
>>e%201797-03-27.pdf
>>
>The inventory of what they captured was interesting.
>Harvey's dispatch did not name the transports because
>he was reporting to the Admiralty, not the Transport
>Board.
>
>>By the way, the total sailors from Apocada's fleet
>>were 1,032, 91 officers and 581 marines...looks like
>>were enought for the ships, but far to be completed.
>>
>>I will look for the spanish reglament but if i recall,
>>should be about 450 men for a 74.
>>
>That's a pretty light crew for a 74, although the
>Spanish did not need as many men to work the guns as
>the British did (because 24's don't need as many men
>as 32's). But 3 × 450 for the 74's, 600 for the 80,
>and 350 for the 64 would be 2,300, so they were at
>least 25% short unless the 1,032 is seamen and
>there were other unskilled crew members not counted
>but who could still heave on a gun tackle.
>
>>Regards
>>
>>P.S. Albert, the spanish used the french pound for
>>naval artillery from 1740's on...
>
>Yes, but the French had 36-pounders (39 English
>pounds) on their 74's, while the Spanish only had
>24-pounders. Even though those fired shot weighing
>nearly 26 English pounds, they were still lighter than
>the 32-pounders on British 74's. Spanish 18's were
>about 19½-pounders in English measurement, but their
>8-pounders did not fire shot any heavier than English
>9-pounders. Comparison of broadside weights (without
>carronades):
>English common-class 74--14 × 32, 14 × 18, 9 × 9 = 781
>pounds
>Spanish 74--14 × 24, 14 × 18, 9 × 8 = 713 English
>pounds

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