Re: Jacques Boux -- NAVAL WARFARE IN THE AGE OF SAIL 1650-1815

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Date Posted: 09:24:21 04/21/09 Tue
Author: Albert Parker
Subject: Re: Jacques Boux
In reply to: Ken Kellow 's message, "Jacques Boux" on 08:53:23 04/21/09 Tue

>According to all accounts I can find the designer and
>constructor of the large frigate L'Indien at Amsterdam
>in 1777-1778 was a French naval captain named Jacques
>Boux. Can anyone give me any details on Boux's French
>navy career?
>Any links to pictures/drawings of L'Indien/South
>Carolina would also be appreciated.
>
>Ken

Although South Carolina, ex-Indien was captured by the British, she was not taken into the British navy; therefore, it can not be expected that British naval archives have any plans or drawings of her. She is described in Howard I. Chapelle, The History of the American Sailing Navy: The Ships and Their Development (New York: W.W. Norton & Company, 1949; repr. New York: Bonanza Books, [n.d.]), who says (p. 96), "The combination of her heavy aramament and great length cause her to hog, and she was considered to be a weakly built ship. Because of this she was not purchased for the Royal Navy after her capture. A plan of the ship was published in Vice-Admiral Paris' monumental Souvenirs de Marine, Vol. 5; this is reproduced in Plate IV. The drawing shown is not the building plan ... but an ornamental draught made after the ship was completed." So that gives two potential sources for several views of South Carolina: Chapelle's book or his source. The black-and-white plate in the Chapelle reprint shows a side waterline view, an overhead view, bow and stern views including the underwater portion of the hull (as if she were in a dock), and bow and stern lines, but no other lines. Since Chapelle reproduced or redrew a lot of building plans, I infer that no such plans of Indien/South Carolina had survived, or at least that he could find none when he did his research.

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Re: Jacques Boux -- Ken Kellow, 09:48:52 04/21/09 Tue
- Re: Jacques Boux -- John Tredrea, 21:38:23 04/21/09 Tue
  - Re: Jacques Boux -- Ken Kellow, 03:23:34 04/23/09 Thu
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>>According to all accounts I can find the designer and >>constructor of the large frigate L'Indien at Amsterdam >>in 1777-1778 was a French naval captain named Jacques >>Boux. Can anyone give me any details on Boux's French >>navy career? >>Any links to pictures/drawings of L'Indien/South >>Carolina would also be appreciated. >> >>Ken > >Although South Carolina, ex-Indien was >captured by the British, she was not taken into the >British navy; therefore, it can not be expected that >British naval archives have any plans or drawings of >her. She is described in Howard I. Chapelle, The >History of the American Sailing Navy: The Ships and >Their Development (New York: W.W. Norton & >Company, 1949; repr. New York: Bonanza Books, >[n.d.]), who says (p. 96), "The combination of her >heavy aramament and great length cause her to hog, and >she was considered to be a weakly built ship. Because >of this she was not purchased for the Royal Navy after >her capture. A plan of the ship was published in >Vice-Admiral Paris' monumental Souvenirs de >Marine, Vol. 5; this is reproduced in Plate IV. >The drawing shown is not the building plan ... but an >ornamental draught made after the ship was completed." > So that gives two potential sources for several views >of South Carolina: Chapelle's book or his >source. The black-and-white plate in the Chapelle >reprint shows a side waterline view, an overhead view, >bow and stern views including the underwater portion >of the hull (as if she were in a dock), and bow and >stern lines, but no other lines. Since Chapelle >reproduced or redrew a lot of building plans, I infer >that no such plans of Indien/South Carolina had >survived, or at least that he could find none when he >did his research.

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