Re: Loch nan Ceall Incident -- NAVAL WARFARE IN THE AGE OF SAIL 1650-1815

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Date Posted: 18:50:02 04/28/09 Tue
Author: Albert Parker
Subject: Re: Loch nan Ceall Incident
In reply to: Kurt Mericle 's message, "Loch nan Ceall Incident" on 14:09:50 04/28/09 Tue

>Would anyone have any information on a naval incident
>on 30 April 1746, in Loch nan Ceall, Scotland? Two
>French vessels (Mars, Bellona)? supporting the
>Jacobite rebellion with a delivery of gold, were
>engaged by three British frigates; but, the French
>ships were able to escape after the battle. Do you
>have any details on this 'battle' and the British and
>French ships? Would you be able to recommend any other
>sources? Any information would be appreciated. Thank
>you.

Two private French ships, Le Mars and La Bellone, were involved in a sort of an action with several British warships in Loch nan Uamh on May 3, 1745, according to Gibson (see below). Clowes and Beatson (see below) are vague on the date, placing the incident at “the end of April.” May 3 might have been the date as far as the French were concerned, but that would be April 22 in the English calendar.

N.A.M. Rodger, The Command of the Ocean, devotes only one sentence to this incident. He cites the following sources on the use of British sea power to choke off support for Prince Charles Edward:
F.J. McLynn, “Sea Power and the Jacobite Rising of 1745,” Mariner’s Mirror, 67 (1981), 163–72 [I can’t find any mention of Loch nan Uamh].
John S. Gibson, Ships of the ’45: The Rescue of the Young Pretender, 1–41 [see 36–41 specifically for the Loch nan Uamh incident].
Henri Malo, Les Derniers Corsaires: Dunquerque (1715–1815), 22-33.

See also the following for brief mentions of the encounter in Loch nan Uamh:
William Laird Clowes, The Royal Navy, A History from the Earliest Times to the Present, III, 113.
Robert Beatson, Naval and Military Memoirs of Great Britain, I, 270n.

There might also be something in Isaac Schomberg, Naval Chronology. Of the sources above, the only description with any detail is Gibson’s. There might be other mentions in biographies of Prince Charles Edward or in other accounts of The ’45.

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Re: Loch nan Ceall Incident -- Gerardo, 06:18:03 04/29/09 Wed

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>>Would anyone have any information on a naval incident >>on 30 April 1746, in Loch nan Ceall, Scotland? Two >>French vessels (Mars, Bellona)? supporting the >>Jacobite rebellion with a delivery of gold, were >>engaged by three British frigates; but, the French >>ships were able to escape after the battle. Do you >>have any details on this 'battle' and the British and >>French ships? Would you be able to recommend any other >>sources? Any information would be appreciated. Thank >>you. > >Two private French ships, Le Mars and La >Bellone, were involved in a sort of an action with >several British warships in Loch nan Uamh on May 3, >1745, according to Gibson (see below). Clowes and >Beatson (see below) are vague on the date, placing the >incident at “the end of April.” May 3 might have been >the date as far as the French were concerned, but that >would be April 22 in the English calendar. > >N.A.M. Rodger, The Command of the Ocean, >devotes only one sentence to this incident. He cites >the following sources on the use of British sea power >to choke off support for Prince Charles Edward: >F.J. McLynn, “Sea Power and the Jacobite Rising of >1745,” Mariner’s Mirror, 67 (1981), 163–72 [I >can’t find any mention of Loch nan Uamh]. >John S. Gibson, Ships of the ’45: The Rescue of >the Young Pretender, 1–41 [see 36–41 specifically >for the Loch nan Uamh incident]. >Henri Malo, Les Derniers Corsaires: Dunquerque >(1715–1815), 22-33. > >See also the following for brief mentions of the >encounter in Loch nan Uamh: >William Laird Clowes, The Royal Navy, A History >from the Earliest Times to the Present, III, 113. >Robert Beatson, Naval and Military Memoirs of Great >Britain, I, 270n. > >There might also be something in Isaac Schomberg, >Naval Chronology. Of the sources above, the >only description with any detail is Gibson’s. There >might be other mentions in biographies of Prince >Charles Edward or in other accounts of The ’45.

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