Re: Flags on HMS Victory at Trafalgar -- NAVAL WARFARE IN THE AGE OF SAIL 1650-1815

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Date Posted: 09:49:06 05/01/09 Fri
Author: Albert Parker
Subject: Re: Flags on HMS Victory at Trafalgar
In reply to: Lynn 's message, "Flags on HMS Victory at Trafalgar" on 06:46:15 05/01/09 Fri

>I'm trying to find out what ensigns/flags were flying
>on HMS Victory as she approached the battle [approx.
>mid-day].
>
>In particular I'm trying to establish which flags [ie.
>admirals flag, white ensign, union flags, pennants
>etc], and where they were placed, and if at all
>possible - how large they were?
>
>I'm okay for the signal flags, as these are well
>documented.
>
>Thanks everyone for your help

Don't know dimensions.

AFAIK, in addition to signal flags:

(1) White ensign on halyard from after end of spanker boom to taffrail of poop deck. Flagstaffs had been abandoned by 1805.

(2) Commissioning pennant at peak of mainmast. This was probably the main royal mast, since in the very light winds the British fleet was carrying all possible sail. This would have been a white squadron commissioning pennant, to go with the white ensign flown by all ships because of the commander-in-chief of the fleet was a vice-admiral of the white squadron.

(3) White ensign at the peak of the foremast. This indicated that a vice-admiral of the white squadron of His Majesty's fleet was on board. Other admirals' flags: Royal Sovereign, blue ensign at the foremast (Collingwood, a vice admiral of the blue); Britannia, white ensign at the mizzen mast (Northesk, a rear admiral of the white).

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Replies:

Re: Flags on HMS Victory at Trafalgar -- Cy, 11:06:57 05/01/09 Fri
- Re: Flags on HMS Victory at Trafalgar -- Albert Parker, 16:15:56 05/01/09 Fri
  - Re: Flags on HMS Victory at Trafalgar -- Cy, 04:33:39 05/02/09 Sat
    - Re: Flags on HMS Victory at Trafalgar -- Albert Parker, 14:50:31 05/02/09 Sat
      - Re: Flags on HMS Victory at Trafalgar -- Cy, 15:37:06 05/02/09 Sat
        Re: Flags on HMS Victory at Trafalgar -- Cy, 15:41:54 05/02/09 Sat
        Re: Flags on HMS Victory at Trafalgar -- Albert Parker, 19:56:41 05/02/09 Sat
        Re: Flags on HMS Victory at Trafalgar -- Albert Parker (Update), 09:36:20 05/04/09 Mon
        Re: Thanks, any idea on sizes of flags/ sails -- Lynn, 04:34:17 05/08/09 Fri
        Re: Thanks, any idea on sizes of flags/ sails -- Albert Parker, 11:18:46 05/08/09 Fri
        Re: Thanks, any idea on sizes of flags/ sails -- Cy, 01:16:59 05/09/09 Sat
        Thanks once again -- Lynn, 04:46:22 05/11/09 Mon
        HBMS Victory—Sails at Trafalgar -- Albert Parker, 09:45:19 05/11/09 Mon
        Re: HBMS Victory—Sails at Trafalgar -- Albert Parker (Correction), 20:03:14 05/12/09 Tue
        Re: HBMS Victory—Sails at Trafalgar -- Mark Barker, 13:07:22 11/08/09 Sun
        empolyment -- Naeem Talib, 18:56:43 09/19/09 Sat

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>>I'm trying to find out what ensigns/flags were flying >>on HMS Victory as she approached the battle [approx. >>mid-day]. >> >>In particular I'm trying to establish which flags [ie. >>admirals flag, white ensign, union flags, pennants >>etc], and where they were placed, and if at all >>possible - how large they were? >> >>I'm okay for the signal flags, as these are well >>documented. >> >>Thanks everyone for your help > >Don't know dimensions. > >AFAIK, in addition to signal flags: > >(1) White ensign on halyard from after end of spanker >boom to taffrail of poop deck. Flagstaffs had been >abandoned by 1805. > >(2) Commissioning pennant at peak of mainmast. This >was probably the main royal mast, since in the very >light winds the British fleet was carrying all >possible sail. This would have been a white >squadron commissioning pennant, to go with the >white ensign flown by all ships because of the >commander-in-chief of the fleet was a vice-admiral of >the white squadron. > >(3) White ensign at the peak of the foremast. This >indicated that a vice-admiral of the white squadron of >His Majesty's fleet was on board. Other admirals' >flags: Royal Sovereign, blue ensign at the >foremast (Collingwood, a vice admiral of the blue); >Britannia, white ensign at the mizzen mast >(Northesk, a rear admiral of the white).

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