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Date Posted: 11:37:19 05/04/09 Mon
Author: Cy
Subject: Re: Crew of British schooners and transports
In reply to: Albert Parker 's message, "Re: Crew of British schooners and transports" on 10:39:12 05/04/09 Mon

N.A.M. Rodger, the Wooden World gives establishment figures for all rates from 1st to an 8-gun Yacht

The figures for a 10 gun sloop (210-230 tons bm) are
Complement of 100-110 men total
1 Captain (probably a commander)
1 Lieutenant
Warrant Officers
1 Sailing Master
1 Boatswain
1 Gunner
1 Carpenter
1 Surgeon
1 Purser
Inferior Warrant Officers
1 Cook
1 Sailmaker
1 Surgeon's Mate
Petty Officers
1 Master's Mate
2 Midshipmen
1 Captain's Clerk
2 Quartermasters
1 Quartermaster's mate
1 Boatswain's Mate
1 Coxwain
1 Gunner's Mate
1 Yeoman of the Powder Room
1 Quarter Gunner
1 Carpenter's mate
1 Steward
1 Corporal
Idlers
1 Sailmaker's Crew
2 Carpenter's crew
Seamen
14 servants
2 Widow's men
55-65 seamen (Able, Ordinary and landsmen)

This from the mid 18C though.

The Crew of the Pickle, schooner at Trafalgar was

1 Lieutenant - John Richards LaPenotiere
1 Sub-Lieutenant - John Kingdon
1 Acting 2nd Master and Pilot - George Almy
2 Midshipmen - Alexander Graves and Charles Hawkins
1 Assistant Surgeon - Simon Gage
1 Carpenter's Mate - Hutchin Copeland
1 Gunner's Mate - John Johnston
1 Boatswain's Mate - James Rowden
1 Clerk
2 Supernumaries
10 Able Seamen
8 Ordinary Seamen
9 Landsmen
1 Boy - Edward York age 14
Total Complement 38 men and 1 boy

Hope that helps

Cy


>The British navy had crew "establishments" for
>everything. Transports and cutters were indeed
>commanded by lieutenants. The lieutenant in command
>would have been the only commissioned officer.
>Watches would have been kept by the warrant officers,
>such as the master and the boatswain, or by master's
>mates or midshipmen if they had had enough experience.
>
>One famous ship commanded by a lieutenant was His
>Majesty's Armed Vessel Bounty. If
>Bounty had been rated as a "sloop," it would
>have had a contingent of marines with a sergeant and a
>corporal. However, the sponsors of the expedition
>wanted William Bligh to command it for very good
>reasons (he had been Cook's master on his last
>expedition, was an expert navigator, and knew the
>southwest Pacific as well as anyone in the Navy), and
>Bligh was only a lieutenant. If Bounty had
>been a sloop, his appointment to command her would
>have constituted a promotion to commander at a higher
>rate of pay. The absence of marines at Tahiti left
>him without a reliable corps of armed men to suppress
>the mutiny led by midshipman Fletcher Christian.
>
>The composition of the crew of Bounty would
>give some idea of a lieutenant's command. I don't
>have a complete list by rating at hand, but might get
>one soon. Unfortunately, the Bounty has been
>written about extensively, not always by authors who
>understood the Royal Navy of the 1780's. Richard
>Hough, The Bounty, gives a full crew list which
>includes the following:
>1 lieutenant (commanding officer)
>1 master
>1 boatswain
>1 gunner
>1 carpenter
>1 surgeon
>1 surgeon's mate
>2 master's mates
>2 midshipmen
>2 "acting" midshipmen
>2 quartermasters
>1 quartermaster's mate
>1 boatswain's mate
>1 gunner's mate
>1 carpenter's mate
>1 carpenter's crew
>1 sailmaker
>1 armourer
>1 master-at-arms
>1 clerk and steward
>19 able seamen
>TOTAL: 42
>A botonist and botonist's assistant were
>supernumeraries, not part of the regular crew.
>In a vessel this size, the petty officers, such as the
>mates and the sailmaker, would probably have had to
>perform duties of seamen that they would not have had
>to do on larger vessels. In wartime, a vessel with a
>crew of only 42 would have had a mixture of able and
>ordinary seamen, landsmen, and boys.
>
>From Lyon, Sailing Navy List, most of the
>cutters of the War of American Independence had
>somewhat larger crews, up to 60, but some had as few
>as 45—probably the same as Bounty with 3 more
>seamen of varying abilities.

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