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>What is the source for the English ships? >Do you have the crew of each ship? > >>I have posted the English ships at >> >><a rel=nofollow target=_blank >>href="http://3decks.pbworks.com/First-Battle-of-Schoon >e >>veld">http://3decks.pbworks.com/First-Battle-of-Schoon >e >>veld</a> >> >>Now all we need are the Dutch? >> >>cy >> >>>>Can anyone help me with a list of the French and >>>>English Fleet list from the Battles of Schooneveld >>and >>>>Texel of 1673? I know some ships and captains, but I >>>>need guns and crew for each of them. >>> >>>French—ship names and guns, some captains, no crew >>>numbers—from O. Troude, <i>Batailles navales de la >>>France</i>, I, 134. This is presumably at the >>>beginning of the campaign; he does not give separate >>>orders of battle for the various actions. He has the >>>English, too, but without most of the captains, and I >>>would not rely on it. Demerliac might have the >>>establishment crews but that would require looking >the >>>ships up one at a time. I might do that later if I >>>find the time. >>> >>>70 Bon, capitaine ? >>>50 Bourbon, de Kervin >>>50 Maure, ? >>>50 Fortuné, ? >>>70 Terrible, chef d'escadre (rear admiral) Desardans >>>70 Illustre, capitaine chevalier¹ de Béthune >>>50 Duc, chev. de Sepville >>>50 Grand, Forant >>>50 Excellent, du Magnon >>>50 Apollon, de Langeron >>>70 Invincible, commandeur² d'Estival >>>58 Tonnant, Preuilly d'Humières >>>58 Reine, ? >>>70 Foudroyant, vice-amiral (admiral) comte d'Estrées, >>>capitaine Louis Gabaret >>>70 Glorieux, chev. de Valbelle >>>70 Fier, chev. Dallly >>>70 Aimable, ? >>>50 Vaillant, ? >>>50 Précieux, ? >>>66 San-Pareil, chev. de Tourville >>>66 Orgueilleux, chef d'escadre (rear-admiral) marquis >>>de Grancey³ >>>70 Conquérant, de Thives >>>50 Aquilon, ? >>>50 Prince, marquis d'Amfreville >>>50 Teméraire, de Larson >>>50 Sage, ? >>>50 Oriflamme, de Kerjean >>> >>>¹chevalier = "knight," probably a knight of the >>>Knights Hospitallers of St. John of Malta, like many >>>French and Spanish naval officers >>>²not a naval rank, but a "commander" or "bailiff" in >>>the Knights of Malta >>>³Troude's footnote: «La liste dressée par >>>l'ambassadeur de Frnace à Londres place >>>l'<i>Orgueilleux</i> à la 2e division et la >>><i>Terrible</i> à la 3e. La relation donnée par le >>>chavalier de Valbelle constatant que le chef >d'escadre >>>Desardans commandait l'avant-garde, j'ai placé le >>>marquis de Grancey à l'arrière-garde.»

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