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>Sorry, my fault. >I didn't see the sources below the list. > >>What is the source for the English ships? >>Do you have the crew of each ship? >> >>>I have posted the English ships at >>> >>><a rel=nofollow target=_blank >>>href="http://3decks.pbworks.com/First-Battle-of-Schoo >n >>e >>>veld">http://3decks.pbworks.com/First-Battle-of-Schoo >n >>e >>>veld</a> >>> >>>Now all we need are the Dutch? >>> >>>cy >>> >>>>>Can anyone help me with a list of the French and >>>>>English Fleet list from the Battles of Schooneveld >>>and >>>>>Texel of 1673? I know some ships and captains, but >I >>>>>need guns and crew for each of them. >>>> >>>>French—ship names and guns, some captains, no crew >>>>numbers—from O. Troude, <i>Batailles navales de la >>>>France</i>, I, 134. This is presumably at the >>>>beginning of the campaign; he does not give separate >>>>orders of battle for the various actions. He has >the >>>>English, too, but without most of the captains, and >I >>>>would not rely on it. Demerliac might have the >>>>establishment crews but that would require looking >>the >>>>ships up one at a time. I might do that later if I >>>>find the time. >>>> >>>>70 Bon, capitaine ? >>>>50 Bourbon, de Kervin >>>>50 Maure, ? >>>>50 Fortuné, ? >>>>70 Terrible, chef d'escadre (rear admiral) Desardans >>>>70 Illustre, capitaine chevalier¹ de Béthune >>>>50 Duc, chev. de Sepville >>>>50 Grand, Forant >>>>50 Excellent, du Magnon >>>>50 Apollon, de Langeron >>>>70 Invincible, commandeur² d'Estival >>>>58 Tonnant, Preuilly d'Humières >>>>58 Reine, ? >>>>70 Foudroyant, vice-amiral (admiral) comte >d'Estrées, >>>>capitaine Louis Gabaret >>>>70 Glorieux, chev. de Valbelle >>>>70 Fier, chev. Dallly >>>>70 Aimable, ? >>>>50 Vaillant, ? >>>>50 Précieux, ? >>>>66 San-Pareil, chev. de Tourville >>>>66 Orgueilleux, chef d'escadre (rear-admiral) >marquis >>>>de Grancey³ >>>>70 Conquérant, de Thives >>>>50 Aquilon, ? >>>>50 Prince, marquis d'Amfreville >>>>50 Teméraire, de Larson >>>>50 Sage, ? >>>>50 Oriflamme, de Kerjean >>>> >>>>¹chevalier = "knight," probably a knight of the >>>>Knights Hospitallers of St. John of Malta, like many >>>>French and Spanish naval officers >>>>²not a naval rank, but a "commander" or "bailiff" in >>>>the Knights of Malta >>>>³Troude's footnote: «La liste dressée par >>>>l'ambassadeur de Frnace à Londres place >>>>l'<i>Orgueilleux</i> à la 2e division et la >>>><i>Terrible</i> à la 3e. La relation donnée par le >>>>chavalier de Valbelle constatant que le chef >>d'escadre >>>>Desardans commandait l'avant-garde, j'ai placé le >>>>marquis de Grancey à l'arrière-garde.»

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