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>Albert (the Spammer) > >It just the protection software being silly, it did it >to me earier as well. > >I wouldn't take it personally, its just a glitch. > >Cy > > > >>>>Can anyone help me with a list of the French and >>>>English Fleet list from the Battles of Schooneveld >>and >>>>Texel of 1673? I know some ships and captains, but I >>>>need guns and crew for each of them. >>> >>>The best source for English and French squadrons at >>>the battle of Schooneveldt is H.T. Colenbrander, >>>Bescheiden uit Vreemde Archieven van Omtrent de >Groote >>>Nederlandsche Zeeoorlogen, 1652-1676, B. 2, Hague, >>>1919. Here is a line of battle dated 30 May 1673 with >>>crews’ numbers (as per Establishments) and Captains’ >>>names. >>> >>>As for the battle of Texel, no problem with crews of >>>French ships but their exact line is unknown; no >exact >>>data for English squadron at all; R.C. Anderson >>>(Journals and Narratives of he Third Dutch War (NRS, >>>v. 86, London, 1946) managed to define English ships >>>participated in this battle, but with only partial >>>distribution between squadrons (Red and Blue). >>> >>>I have them on paper and can post them later as now I >>>am busy. >>> >>>Ted >> >>I can not find a list of the Anglo-French fleet in >>1673 in anything in my personal library. John >>Campbell, <I>Naval History of Great Britain, Including >>the History and Lives of the British Admirals<I> >>(London: John Stockdale, 1813), II, 210n, says, “See >>‘The Exact Relation,’ &c. In this piece we have not >>only the most authentic, but, I believe, the only >>authentic account of this engagement, now extant. >>Prince Rupert’s letters were usually published, but >>what he wrote on this occasion, was not judged >>convenient for the people’s perusal. The Dutch >>narrations were calculated to serve a turn, and that >>penned by M. de Martel for the information of the >>French king, was for many good reasons suppressed.” A >>large amount of 17th and 18th century English printed >>matter has been digitized in the last few years; >>that’s my source for Campbell. Digitized 18th-century >>British naval histories that I have but that do not >>include ship lists either include John Entick, >><I>Naval History: Or, Complete View of the British >>Marine</I> (1757); George Berkley, <I>The Naval >>History of Britain</I> (1756); and Frederic Hervey, >><I>The Naval History of Great Britain</I> (1780). The >>Allied order of battle with ship names and gun counts, >>officer names, and perhaps nominal crew numbers, might >>be found in contemporary publications like the “Exact >>Relation” or others. They might be available in the >>Goldsmith-Kress’s collection, formerly on microfilm >>(and probably still available in that form at the >>libraries that had acquired it) and recently >>digitized. The microfilm version should be available >>at the libraries of major research universities and at >>national libraries like the British Library and the >>Library of Congress. The digitized version would >>probably have to be accessed at such a library that >>pays for access fees. >> >>On the other hand, if Anderson could not figure out >>the English organization in the early 20th century, it >>probably was not published in 1673. >> >>Since I am now considered to be a "spammer" by this >>site, this will be my last attempt to answer any >>questions here.

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