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Date Posted: 11:38:07 05/22/09 Fri
Author: carl brechler
Subject: Re: Cannon Shot Penetration of Oak
In reply to: Bob Legge 's message, "Cannon Shot Penetration of Oak" on 17:50:41 05/18/09 Mon

Hi,

Very interesting, thank-you for listing this information. I’ve seen Danish and British results, but can not lay my hands on them right a way,

The results do bring up a “thought provoking” conundrum. The penetration tests were generally conducted against a target constructed on solid ground; the target in the notorious test that determined that the long 18 pound gun to be superior to the short 24 pound gun was a 10 foot wide by 6 foot high by 62 inch thick block constructed out of 9 inch by 9 inch timbers bolted together.

However, we have one engagement that is thoroughly documented – Chesapeake vs Shannon. The action began at 50 yards down to intertwined at the end. Both ships had a hull thickness of 19 inches, assuming 4 inch planks inside and out. Actually, this assumes that the Leda class was constructed to the same standards as the Lively class, and the Chesapeake to the same as the Constellation class. Further, the Shannon’s carpenter left us with a fairly detailed listing of ass the projectile hits on both ships.

I will break the hit locations down into three areas: mast, hull (between waterline and the bottom of the spar deck/quarter deck-forecastle), and bulwarks. I included the head/cutwater in the bulwark category and the quarter gallery in the hull category.

The first thing to jump out was that for a ship with a reputation for gunnery (Shannon) there was little to choose from between the two ships. The carpenter found Shannon had 5 hits in the mast category compared to 5 for the Chesapeake. Shannon had 26 hits in the hull category (13-18 pound of which 38% penetrated and 13-32 pound, all of which penetrated) compared to 18 for Chesapeake (8-18 pound with 75% penetrating and 10-32 pound with 67% penetrating). Finally, Shannon had 3-18 pound hits in the bulwark category, all of which penetrated compared to 7 for Chesapeake (2-18 pound of which all penetrated and 5-32 pound, 80% penetrated). The big difference between the two was grape, Shannon had 226 hits between the hull and bulwark categories with 21.5% penetrating the hull and 82% penetrating the bulwarks. Chesapeake had 112 grape in the same categories with 10% penetrating the hull and 73% penetrating the bulwarks. Finally, Chesapeake had a further 10 hits in the hull by “dismantling shot”) vs 1 in the mast category).

From the test data, one would expect that the 18 pound gun would penetrate 43 inches or more, but had trouble with the 19 inches of the hull of the two frigates. One is surprised at the better performance of the 32 pound carronades compared to the 18 pound guns for the British.

One can not help but feel that the Shannon owes her victory to the greater effect of the grape and the lack of cohesion when boarded of the Chesapeake.

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