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Date Posted: 18:30:29 02/25/17 Sat
Author: John Houghton
Subject: Re: Turkish Navy (again)
In reply to: Carl Brechler 's message, "Re: Turkish Navy (again)" on 13:53:44 02/25/17 Sat

You are interpreting correctly. A French mission headed by a shipbuilder from Toulon dockyard, Jean-Jacques Le Roy, arrived in Istanbul in 1784 at the request of the Turkish government which was seeking to introduce Western innovations into the Ottoman armed forces.

Le Roy and his team began constructing ships at the Imperial Dockyard on the French model. Le Roy's first ship of the line was the 74-gun Mukadimme-i Nusret (Forerunner of Victory) launched on 31 May 1787. This ship was longer, much less beamy and its stern much lower than had been Ottoman practice. Le Roy nevertheless considered the underwater shape of existing Turkish ships to be perfect. (By that I mean the shape of the hull as distinct from the dimensions - hope I am making myself clear.) He apparently adopted it for his own vessels.

Ottoman shipbuilders were trained to build in the new style. Le Roy returned to France in 1789 but more French specialists followed him including, in 1793, Jacques-Balthasard Le Brun who built or designed a whole series of new ships of the line, frigates and corvettes before being tempted away by the Russians in 1799.

The Ottomans continued to arm their ships with bronze artillery until well into the 19th century. They also continued to sometimes incorporate a few large calibre guns throwing stone shot into ships' batteries. I have little detail on individual ship armaments, however, for this period until the 1830s. By that time iron guns were coming into use and stone shot guns were discarded.


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  • Re: Turkish Navy (again) -- John Houghton, 17:00:09 02/26/17 Sun
  • Re: Turkish Navy (again) -- Carl Brechler, 18:56:20 02/26/17 Sun
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