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Date Posted: 09:14:39 02/28/17 Tue
Author: Albert Parker
Subject: Re: Turkish Navy (again)
In reply to: Carl Brechler 's message, "Re: Turkish Navy (again)" on 16:43:33 02/27/17 Mon

That sounds reasonable. Captain Stewart would not have known about okkas, and neither would anyone he was reporting to. He would probably have been able to identify the caliber of a British gun at a glance, and would have categorized the guns he saw on board a Turkish prize by what they looked like. So by eye, he would have thought "42-pounders," "24-pounders," and "12-pounders."

We still have James' assertion that the gun deck was armed with a mixture of approximately 42-[English] pound, 24-pound, and 18-pound pieces, not 24's with a pair of 42's. The 18's would then, presumably, be 7-okka pieces (19.78 lbs.). James must have gotten this from somewhere or someone, but he does not indicate a source. In this case, he is reducing rather than inflating the enemy throw weight. It makes sense for the Turks to have had 7-okka guns as an intermediate caliber between 9 okkas and 5 okkas (and 5-7-9 makes a nice even progression just as 12-18-24 does), but did they actually have them?

>Referencing Mr. Yener’s article, I suspect what she
>actually carried was: 52 brass guns with 9 okka
>(kiyyes) guns (in English measurement 25.43 lbs.) on
>the main deck, excepting 2 14 okka guns (39.56 lbs.).
>On the upper deck would be 22 5 okka guns (14.13 lbs.).
>I would be surprised if they changed their gun design
>factors as well. Gun design, perhaps, but the only
>country that I've run across who may have made
>wholesale changes to gun design factors (diameter of
>ball, etc.) would be the Spanish.

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