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Date Posted: 10:03:02 03/25/18 Sun
Author: Albert Parker
Subject: Re: COMPARATION BETWEEN BRITISH TREE DECKER 98 GUNS AND FRENCH TWO DECKERS 80 GUNS
In reply to: Chuck 's message, "Re: COMPARATION BETWEEN BRITISH TREE DECKER 98 GUNS AND FRENCH TWO DECKERS 80 GUNS" on 06:26:05 03/25/18 Sun

>Albert,
>Didn't the French Navy usually carry a few more guns
>than just the standard 80 on their 2nd Rate
>Two-Deckers?
>Chuck

I don't know about "usually." After the War of American Independence I think they might have added carronades but still have counted only the long guns in the rating, like the British.

Demerliac gives the following armaments for the nine 80s in the French navy in September 1792:
DUC DE BOURGOGNE (1751-98): 30*36, 32*18, 18*8 [80] only
SAINT ESPRIT (1765-95), SCIPION
1766-77, 1783-95: 30*36, 32*24, 18*8,[80] 6 swivels (perriers--in the tops)
1778-80: 30*36, 32*24, 22*8 [84]
1780-82: 30*36, 32*24, 20*12 [82]
LANGUEDOC (1766-99), ANTIFEDERALISTE, VICTOIRE
30*36, 32*24, 18*12 [80]
Apr. 1778: 30*36, 34*24, 26*8 [90]
Aug. 1783: 30*36, 32*24, 12*12, 8*8, 4*6 [86]
AUGUSTE (1778-95), JACOBIN, NEUF THERMIDOR
30*36, 32*24, 22*8 [84]
1793: 30*36, 32*24, 18*8, [80] 6*26c [sic; error for 36?] ("obusiers") [=86 incl. carronades]
TRIOMPHANT (1779-93): 30*36, 32*24, 18*8 [80]
COURONNE (1781-95), CA IRA
1781-93: 30*36, 32*24, 18-22*8 [80-84]
1794: 30*36, 32*24, 18*12, [80] 4*26c [84 inc. c]
DEUX FRÈRES (1784-94), JUSTE
1785-92: 30*36, 32*24, 18-22*8 [80-84]
1794: 30*36, 32*24, 18*8 [80], 4*36c [84 inc. c]
TONNANT (1789-98): 30*36, 32*24, 18*12 [80], 4*swivels
INDOMPTABLE (1790-1805)
1790-99: 30*36, 32*24, 18*12 [80], 6*1-pounder swivels
1799-1800: 30*36, 32*24, 18*12 [80], 4*36c, 6*1-pounder swivels

Pre-1789 80s would not have had "obusiers."

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